I'd like to poll just to see how many people under 40 are on MOPO.
Phil
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From: Holiday Russell
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I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always be in demand.
Intuitively, there's a point at which the original actor/actress may become
unknown to new generations, but the art will likely remain attractive to those
generations. And, there's the fact that the posters themselves could bring
around new generations to the movies themselves. I can't say how many times
I've come to a great movie because of the poster.
Holiday
On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:
Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that
will prop up the price I think
the problem with that statement is the new collectors dont know stanwyck,
lancaster, laughton, milland, garfield,
colbert.......................................so many awesome posters that we
seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may lose out. TMC might help avoid these stars
from "dying".
i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet: HIGH WALL, 1948 with robert
taylor, audrey totter and herbert marshall. WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER 40 who
knows any of those stars?
casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are among those that will
always be sought-after.
michael
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From: Holiday Russell <hollyr...@mac.com>
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Yeah, I think that's how I feel too. I couldn't do it. Also, the market
can absorb a lot of a good thing. Again, with first edition books, about 15
years ago, the first two books by a popular writer were remaindered by a big
remainder company. About 300 of each hit the market at once. The company
limited sales of two of each per buyer. The books previously sold for about
200 each. None were sold other than the remainders for a few years. Then,
while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used to be.
Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that will
prop up the price I think. But, I do agree that the must be let go over a few
years.
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From: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM EDT
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Reply-To: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has managed to survive into
the current era is just flat out criminal. But there's no reason not to do as
many on this list have suggested: Keep a couple for yourself and trickle out
the rest very slowly into the market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone
would understand it -- yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of
the same item at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions.
And then there's this ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is reasonably
scarce (but not truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price (usually because
no one has put one of those particular things up for a month or two). Suddenly
every seller in the world who has the same item immediately lists it on Ebay
within a few days of the first sale -- all of them thinking they are also going
to get the good price, when in fact all they are doing is guaranteeing they
will not. They think they will pick up the second bidder who missed the first
item by only a buck or two? Not if that second bidder suddenly sees 4 or 5 of
the same item turn up right after he lost the first auction. What he's going to
do instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got outbid on that first
auction... I almost paid way too much for one of those."
-- JR
Holiday Russell wrote:
How about keeping a few and destroying the rest? I've known first
edition book dealers that have done this.
Holiday
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From: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market
Reply-To: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi, I think the point is that, wrong or not, (as Wolfgang confirmed),
this has happened, in the case of the Peeping Tom quads at least.
I really don't know exactly what happened with The Outlaw 6 sheet(s).
I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that it happens.
On 2 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Ken Farrell wrote:
Hi, I just thought that I would chime on this one...
I think the point is being missed...If all of a sudden you have 75
copies of a rare item, the value is automatically changed by the laws of supply
and demand. Anything you do to control this is some sort of insider trading. If
you lie to numerous people, you are protecting your own interests at the
expense of others. What if you auction one copy and get the record setting
price? All the bidders will feel cheated when the next 74 come up for sale. You
would feel the same.
The deflated value is a reality...these posters should be sold at
an estimated new, readjusted value and all will work out. You just won't become
rich.
Also, once a number of these posters show up, try to convince the
market that there are only 75 in the find. The gossip will fly (75 or 750?) and
the item just might loose all of its value.
I have purchased large quantities of rare items many times over the
years and have sold them for prices related to the find.
Ken
Just Kids Nostalgia
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From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com>
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At 12:44 PM 8/1/2010, Richard Evans wrote:
>Yes Rich, you describe the best method.
>Alternatively, there's:
>Approach a dealer with your find of perhaps half a dozen max,
>(that's all there is, no really).
>Approach second dealer (that's all there is, no really), third
etc, >etc, etc, and endeavor to get it done as swiftly as possible.
>Change telephone number, move to a nicer house.
the only problem with that Richard is this:
after you call the third dealer, seeing as we all talk to each
other (more or less) it would be pretty fast - maybe just hours - that everyone
would know you have multiples of the items
of course, if you lie to every dealer so you can sell them fast, I
imagine that Guido will be looking for you
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