On Jan 4, 8:35 am, Cactus <rieman...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 3:26 am, Case Vanhorsen <cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Cactus <rieman...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 3, 8:15 pm, Case Vanhorsen <cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hello,
>
> > >> I discovered an interesting memory allocation behavior on Windows vs.
> > >> Linux. I was testing GMPY on 64-bit Windows when I stumbled into this.
> > >> GMPY replaces the native MPIR memory allocation routines with Python's
> > >> memory allocator. If I enable debugging in GMPY, I get a trace of all
> > >> the memory allocation calls. When I ran the following:
>
> > >> python -mtimeit -n 1 -r 1 -s "import
> > >> gmpy;gmpy.mpz(3)**(2**27);gmpy.set_debug(1)" "a=a*a" 2>temp.txt
>
> > >> and look at the output saved in temp.txt, I see that Linux generated
> > >> approximately 34 memory manager calls but Windows generates over
> > >> 100,000 calls. Most of the Windows allocations are for small (<8K)
> > >> chunks of memory while all the Linux requests are for more than 64K.
> > >> The performance between Linux and Windows is similar. Could it be that
> > >> Windows is not using alloca?
>
> > >> I also think I found another memory allocation bug. If I run the above
> > >> multiplication repeatedly:
>
> > >> python -mtimeit -s "import
> > >> gmpy;gmpy.mpz(3)**(2**27);gmpy.set_debug(1)" "a=a*a" 2>temp.txt
>
> > >> it will eventually crash. In looking at the debug output, I see a
> > >> request to allocate 18446744073709498400 bytes of memory.
>
> > >> I tested with both MPIR 1.2.2 and 1.3.0 and get similar behavior. I'm
> > >> using a custom version of GMPY with some fixes for size_t vs. long
> > >> issues that hasn't been committed but I will try to commit those
> > >> changes later today.
>
> > > Hi Case
>
> > > That is _very_ useful information and may explain why Windows
> > > performance lgas that on Linux.
>
> > > A long time ago - in GMP days - I had to turn of the use of alloca as
> > > I kept getting crashes if I used it.
>
> > > I have not tried switching it on in MPIR but I will certainly look at
> > > this again.
>
> > > But _alloca is now deprecated on Windows and its replacement requires
> > > a 'free' procedure that alloca doesn't need. It may hence be quite
> > > difficult to take advantage of this in future.  It all depends on how
> > > GMP/MPIR use alloca.
>
> > > Thanks for the debugging!
>
> > >   Brian
>
> > Some additional information.
>
> > MPIR 1.2.2 generates approximately 172,000 memory allocator calls.
> > MPIR 1.3.0 generates approximately 221,000 memory allocator calls.
>
> > The count includes both mp_allocate and mp_free.
>
> > Performance numbers:
> > Windows x64, MPIR 1.2.2: 3.35 seconds
> > Windows x64, MPIR 1.3.0, 3.76 seconds
> > Linux, MPIR 1.3.0, 3.05 seconds
>
> > Processor is a Core2.
>
> > Regarding the mp_allocate failure: it looks like it occurs when trying
> > to allocate space for a number larger that 2^32 bits long.
>
> Does this allocation failure only occur on Windows?
>
> The MPIR settings for memory management on Windows are:
>
> #define HAVE_ALLOCA          1
> #undef HAVE_ALLOCA_H
> #undef WANT_TMP_ALLOCA
> #undef WANT_TMP_DEBUG
> #undef WANT_TMP_NOTREENTRANT
> #define WANT_TMP_REENTRANT   1
>
> What are the normal settings used on a Linux/GCC build?

The memory allocation calls in MPIR are of trhe form

   void *memory(pointer, size_t)

Since size_t is a 32-bit int on Windows, this will fail if an attempt
is made to obtain 2^32 or more _bytes_.

But it should be ok for 2^32 bits.

    Brian

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