Alright, then picture this situation: I take a live DVD I purchased,
place it in my DVD drive, hit play, and minimize the player. I continue
working on my computer and would like to look up the info on a
particular track quickly. The case doesn't have a tracklisting on it
and I don't want to stop the music to go view the tracklisting in the
menu, so I open a new tab and browse to the artist's page on MB to find
the information quickly. I would expect to find that information listed
under the official section, and not as a bootleg. To me it doesn't
matter whether or not someone else may have ripped the audio to their
hard drive and whether or not that may be considered a bootlegging
activity; I am listening to the official disc directly and would be
confused to see it not listed as official.
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I would say that the majority seem to feel that the process of ripping a
DVD disc to audio files is not an act of bootlegging, but given that
there are other usage cases for the data such as the one I gave above I
would also argue that it is not necessary a relevant discussion to the
topic of DVD release status as a whole. Yes, it'll still have to be
decided for the case when people want to add information about a rip
where the actual chapters do not directly line up with the official
tracklist. For the cases where people just want to add the official
tracklist plus some sort of DVDID like Steve suggested then it doesn't
seem relevant to me.
Brian Gurtler wrote:
i'm talking about seperating audio from video, not ripping CDs.
Cristov Russell wrote:
No. Following that logic, every ripped format (mp3, wav, flac, aac, mp4, ogg,
etc.) that was not released via an artist or their label is a Bootleg. The
original media source should be the determinate of what is Official or Bootleg.
Cristov (wolfsong)
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From: Brian Gurtler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MusicBrainz style discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [mb-style] WTF DVD? (was: Veto - DVD in album titles)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:06:30 -0400
Beth wrote:
My thoughts...
Q1. Which DVDs to add?
A1. All DVD musical rips.
Arguments: it was argued MB was a music database. Music
DVD's are based on music and bands. That in itself seems to be a good reason
to add them. If MB is supposed to be an archive of band's music at least.)
once you separate the video from the audio you are left with a homemade
audio release which isn't any different than a bootleg.
if it was official audio, there would be an official audio release of
the same audio put out by the band.
example.. the Dave Matthews Band Live in Central Park CDs and DVDs are
official. if i took the audio from the DVD to make a CD.. whats official
about that? nothing.
it's an act unsanctioned by the band.
If there was no audio release of a DVD put out by a band, than you have
to create the audio yourself. That audio is a bootleg.
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