On 25/05/06, Steve Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm glad you brought this up in the mailing list.
There is no point in changing who it is credited to according to the
release that a work appeared on. The work is identical whether it appears
on a Single, Eurythmics an AF album or a VA compilation. The people who
receive the royalties are the same in each instance.
As I stated previouly on IRC this is an identical situation to the Queen &
David Bowie release of Under Pressure.
IMO sg5 was a problem because you HAD to make everything an "X (feat.
Y)", regardless of how it was actually billed. This is obviously crap,
but it seems now we're going the opposite way and making everything a
collaboration!
what i want to know is: are you saying that we should:
a) reflect reality (ie, we decide what's a colloboration and what
isn't, not the sleeves)
b) reflect what a song is billed as on its first releasei
c) not use feat. x at all
i say: d) use what's on the sleeve as it's (normally) contextually appropriate
On the album in question, in the liner notes it is shown as a duet, on the
liner notes of Respect: The Very Best of AF it is also shown as a duet.
What is a duet if it is not a collaboration?
well what is a feat. if it's not one artist singing on another artists
track? but anyway i don't believe we should be trying to make this
decision anyway.
http://www.annie-lennox.com/sisters2.htm
"Tina Turner was first choice for the collaboration but she turned the
Eurythmics down because the song was apparently too feminist in content. "
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002VD3/
"... and a rocking collaboration with Eurythmics, "Sisters Are Doin' It
for Themselves," that she completely takes over."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89106,00.html
"Lennox came to the party looking a helluvalot happier than she does in
the pictures. She's over her big divorce, which is what the album is
about, and she's been touring all over the world.
Is there anyone she wants to duet with? (She has one famous hit
collaboration, with Aretha Franklin, on "Sisters Are Doin' It For
Themselves.")
"I don't think so," she said in her heavy brogue. "I'm happy singing solo
I think."
>From the Grammy awards:
http://www.rockonthenet.com/archive/1986/grammys.htm
"BEST R&B VOCAL PERFORMANCE BY A DUO OR GROUP" -
other nominees:
Ashford & Simpson - Solid
Eurythmics & Aretha Franklin - "Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves"
Hall & Oates, David Ruffin & Eddie Kendrick - "The Way You Do The Things
You Do / My Girl"
The Pointer Sisters - Contact"
You'll notice in the Grammys, it wasn't just Eurthymics or Aretha Franklin
nominated for the award, it was both!
If that doesn't prove it is a collaboration, what does?
all that proves is that the initial release was billed as a
collaboration, which i'm not arguing with :) and for kicks, this track
appears on an aretha franklin compilation as (feat. Eurythmics) -
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6892026/a/sss+Who's+Zoomin'+Who%3F.htm
it all depends on the context - typically a guest is only a guest when
it's not their album.
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