Aaron Cooper wrote: > On 20-Mar-08, at 7:17 PM, Leiv Hellebo wrote: > I think it's missing a lot of important information like the stuff > from OperaTrackStyle. Because classical stuff is released on CDs and > not as "works" I think work info is necessary in track titles (as does > the CSG).
This release lasts for 161 minutes and is of course not released on a CD. OTS concerns opera and *is unofficial*. I am guessing one reason it never quite made it to be official is that it really is too inflexible and difficult (and sometimes makes for ugly titles to boot). I guess the passions should be treated somewhere in between cantata style and opera style (which are in conflict). If we just had a "Symphony No. 5 in C minor" work-release, > then we wouldn't really need to put "Symphony No. 5 in C minor" in > each track title–but we don't so we have to ;) > I don't get what you mean here. The release I am talking about contains only the SMP. > I think these titles should be at least: > > Matthew Passion, BWV 244: Choral "Herzliebster Jesu, was hast du > verbrochen" > Matthew Passion, BWV 244: "Da das Jesus merkete" (Evangelista, Jesus) > etc. I checked the existing SMPs: NOT 244 Schreier Oberfrank Sándor Suzuki Jochum Leonhardt (identified by following link to freedb) With 244 Klemperer (added for tracks in 2007) Gardiner (added for tracks in 2007) Koopman (added for tracks in 2007) Herreweghe (added for tracks December 2006) Harnoncourt (added for tracks in 2008) McCreesh (release added 2007) Rilling (release added 2007) Unknown (release added 2008) Vermunt (added for tracks right after release add in 2007) I'm guessing that the ClassicalTrackTitleStyle has something to do for the 2007 ones, and that CSGS/JSBach has something to do with the 2008 ones... From experience with one of my BWV 245 SJPs (which I added to MB myself), I can assure you that BWV 245 is not needed in any way: In fact it only distracts me from the more interesting issue of the music itself. Going more on details: Choral: Herzliebster Jesu, was hast du verbrochen Evangelista: Da versammleten sich die Hohenpriester This is done as the tags were from Linn Records, and I think it fits the SMP perfectly: 1) No quotes make it more readable. 2) Dropping "Recitativo" and using simply "Evangelista" makes perfect sense for the Bach passions. 3) It is even consistently having the non-text stuff in front of the colon ;) > > Copying directly from http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSGStandard/JSBach > would make things a lot better, too. No. This is "Matthew Passion", not the "Matthäus-Passion". And I don't like the separating of movement type and movement character that is done on CSGS/JSBach. ----------------------- In short, Aaron: I see you would like me to follow the existing guidelines, and I would if they were official and made sense to me, but this is the fourth or fifth time I've added a Bach passion ... and it is the first time I have been satisfied with it afterwards! I wish you would try to address my concerns regarding the short tracks and the amount of information that we inject into the titles... Leiv _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
