Excellent :) Leiv
(But perhaps #3 should be qualified "For tracks lacking names, use UTS, which recommends..."?) Bogdan Butnaru wrote: > I don't much like adding something directly to a track that isn't in > its original title (however lacking it is). Except for disc numbers, > pretty much everything we add in title fields actually appears on some > cover somewhere, even if it's adjusted for style issues. > > The only big exception that comes to me is untitled tracks, where it > is allowed (maybe even encouraged) to use descriptive text between > square brackets. Given this and the generally accepted typographical > convention of using square brackets for editor-inserted information, > I'm partial to the subdivision-in-brackets someone suggested above. > > And in the spirit of my previous suggestions, I think instead of > pondering for weeks exactly what to put in parentheses we just figure > out a few suggestions and leave it to the judgment of the editors. > > So my edited guidelines recommendation would go like this: > * * * * * > Rule 0) In general, common MusicBrainz guidelines apply to audiobooks > too, unless they don't make sense. In particular: > 1) if the audiobook's track names make sense, use them. > 2) if the book's system matches the tracks reasonably, use that. > 3) otherwise use UntitledTrackStyle, which recommends "[description]" tags. > x) Note: if points (1) or (2) would lead to several tracks with the > same name, you may also append a _brief_ distinguisher between square > brackets. For consistency it is recommended that this distinguisher be > just "[part #]", unless something in the book's or the tracks' > structures makes more sense. > y) Note: please observe general MB guidelines with regards to style: > use CapitalizationStandard, and capitalize the words denoting parts > (e.g. Chapter, Section, Part) in the _official_ part of the title > (when applying guideline 1 or 2 above); according to > UntitledTrackStyle, everything in the brackets should be lower-cased, > unless it actually contains a proper name or title. Punctuation, typos > and misspellings should be handled according to the usual > StylePrinciples. > Examples: ... > * * * * * > > This gives the most common case a consistent look, and also allows > editors to enter weird cases. We can add examples of such cases below > the rules, as we encounter them. > > For instance, someone mentioned books broken in very short > fixed-length interval: the brackets might contain the number of > seconds or minutes from the beginning, which perfectly represents the > logic of the track structure. Or if the split is based on some content > logic, it could contain something like "[prologue]" and "[main part]" > and "[epilogue]". If it's (say) a lecture of the Bible it might > contain verse numbers. (Remember, this applies only if there are some > "official" titles that make sense, but that are not enough to > distinguish everything.) Note that the distinguishing part doesn't > actually have to be a numerical sequence. > > Also note that not necessarily _all_ tracks that get the same name > have to be distinguished. There are (music) artists that intentionally > have several or all songs on a release identically titled (or not at > all), and in many cases we just keep that as a sort of artist intent. > This might make sense for some audiobooks too. And I'm pretty sure in > time we'll get other examples we didn't think of. > > -- Bogdan Butnaru > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweit...@gmail.com> >> >> Well, in that edge case, why not then hyphenate? >> >> >> Track 12: >> Chapter 2. The Russians are Coming, Part 1 - 1 >> >> Track 13: >> Chapter 2. The Russians are Coming, Part 1 - 2 >> >> Track 14: >> Chapter 2: The Russians are Coming, Part 1 - 3 >> >> Brian >> >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Paul C. Bryan <em...@pbryan.net> wrote: >> I suppose then we can live with a chapter name having its own ", >> Part n" >> in MB? A contrived example: >> >> "Chapter 2. The Russians are Coming, Part 1" >> "Chapter 3. The Russians are Coming, Part 2" >> >> ... would appear in MB (if it spans multiple tracks) as... >> >> Track 12: >> Chapter 2. The Russians are Coming, Part 1, Part 1 >> >> Track 13: >> Chapter 2. The Russians are Coming, Part 1, Part 2 >> >> Track 14: >> Chapter 2: The Russians are Coming, Part 1, Part 3 > > _______________________________________________ > Musicbrainz-style mailing list > Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
