Brian Schweitzer wrote: > So, before the 'non-debated' part of the tree proposal goes out, would > anyone debate any of the tree as it would now be proposed
Just a note that I agree with SwissChris that the current classical vocal types are enough. de.wp.org/wiki/Stimmfach shows it's a mess, and I don't think we should get into it. Although I don't have access to my CD collection, I am pretty sure I have never seen lyric coloratura soprano or the others in the main credit section(s) of booklets/sleeves. This I have confirmed by downloading and checking booklets from the British specialist labels Chandos and Hyperion. When it comes to lyric coloratura soprano or others in scores, I don't think you'll find them, because I think they have been assigned after the fact by opera houses (it is a convenience, according to en.wp.org/Fach). Which composer would risk limiting roles as credited on the title page to just a narrow subdivision of soprano? (OTOH, notice how much "Lieder for voice" is used, or the description of Das Lied von der Erde: "Eine Symphonie für eine Tenor- und eine Alt- (oder Bariton-) Stimme und Orchester") To get a feel for how this would be to enter for Joe MBUser, I bought this release (which is very much a work in progress, it's from passionato.com so I don't have the booklet): http://musicbrainz.org/release/9aa8de21-15c4-49e6-b4fd-4f11cc77db3c.html Janet Baker is classified as a coloratura mezzo here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano#Coloratura_mezzo-soprano and a lyrical mezzo here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fach#Lyrischer_Mezzosopran_.2F_Spielalt (I think the second is correct. Note that the description of this voice says: "many lyric mezzos with strong extensions to their upper vocal registers make the transition to singing as sopranos") On my release, she is credited for being a mezzo, but she sings stuff mostly sung by altos - notably Brahm's Alto Rhapsody, and she sings some Wagner and Strauss that usually is sung by sopranos. The review at http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/Sept08/Janet_Baker_2080872.htm says she was "in the beginning [...] classified as a contralto" I have different recordings of both the Alto Rhapsody and the Strauss stuff, and, this is not transposed. en.wp.org says "The Fach system is a convenience for singers and opera houses". de.wp.org says it is rather more in Germany, as a singer of one Fach may go to some civil court if s/he is made to sing roles from another Fach (this must be a simplified description). To Joe Voter at MB it will remain just a mess if we were to include it. Leiv / leivhe _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style