I'd rather not fire up Viz C just to build MySQL 3.23.39 NON-DEBUG. Is there much of a performance difference between DEBUG & NON-DEBUG ? Also with the Windows binary builds how does one NOT use MySQL MAX, is that a runtime option or do you need a different build entirely ? Is there much of a performance difference between MAX & regular MySQL ? - Sam. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/