> Paul Vixie wrote: > I am uncomfortable having folks from the nanog-reform > community accepting responsibility for provisional > moderation (a form of interim governance),
So am I. However, I will point out that these individuals have acted with precipitation (which is the correct term to use when something happens in a matter of days) and without any kind of endorsement or mandate from the nanog-reform community. See below about the position of the nanog-reform community. > Perception isn't *actually* reality, [for those not reading nanOg-reform, this is a hidden reference to my yesterday's post] I could live with Paul's phrasing, as long as it is understood in the context I wrote it: > but in politics (which this is) the difference between > perception and reality is just not worth discussing. For the record, with regard to mailing-list moderation (BTW, we call this mailing-list administration now), the collective position of the nanog-reform community can be found in two places: 1. http://www.nanog-reform.org/ > List Administration Group > Ideally, we would like to see the NANOG mailing list run itself, > with peer pressure or self-policing used to keep things on topic. > Since we recognize that there may at some point be cases where > that doesn't work, there should also be a list administration > group with the ability to deal with extreme cases. The list > administrators should be selected by the board, and should follow > policies set by the board. They should be people with an > understanding of network operations and what constitutes on-topic > and appropriate discussions. Attempts should be made to steer > discussions back on-topic, and to determine whether somebody is > really being disruptive, before any enforcement action is taken. > There should be thorough public records of any enforcement actions 2. http://www.nanog-reform.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/NANOGReform/DraftBylaws > 7.2.2 Mailing List Administrator Selection > The steering committee will select the administrators of the NANOG > mailing list (discussed further in 8.1.2). > 8.1.2 Mailing List Administration The nanog-l will be administered > and minimally moderated by a panel selected by the Steering Committee. > William Allen Simpson wrote: > Please, the interim-moderators should moderate, and the > bylaws drafters should draft, and they should be separate. > It's the usual difference between the Chair and the Editor > (or Raporteur, or Recording Secretary). Being one of the "bylaws drafters" I agree with this. Michel.