I've been sweating blood around here because what looked as if it should be a simple upgrade that even a newbie like me could tackle left me without a graphics desktop (which a newbie like me can't do without :-( The install script for KDE 1.1.1 won't work with Mandrake, but the answer was simple when I got to it.(thanks to some help on the lists). I got rough and did a: rpm -i --force kdesupport rpm -i --force kdelibs rpm -i --force kdebase rpm -i --force kdesupport-qwspritefield then removed the packages and did a: rpm -i --force kdeapplications then removed kdeappclications and finally did a rpm -i --force *.rpm (I left the tails of the above packages to save my fingers ;-) Now things seem to work, but I had to put my desktop back together again from the Desktop.kdesave directory. It does not bode well that there were no huge flashing signs on the KDE and Mandrake sites warning about this (please put them up now!). Rgds Martin
