here is my setup.

I have "Bellsouth.net" for DSL service.

They provided me with a Ethernet DSL Modem.  this is then plugged into a
Netscreen 5XP Firewall/Router.  Then that is plugged into a 8 Port SMC
Switch.  Plugged into that are 4 Windows PC's and 2 Linux Boxes (one RH and
one Mandrake) and one Sun Sparc 20 Running Solaris.

Basically if you have an Ethernet card in each machine when you install the
OS, provided nothing goes wrong during the install and you are connected to
the hub/router which is connected to the DSL modem, you should be up and
running right after the install.  Now keep in mind that this is a kind of
unsecured machine as it would not have any patches applied but you should be
able to send email and surf the net at leisure.

My XP machine is configured to use TCP/IP and when I boot it up and logon to
it as long as the ethernet cable is plugged in it will connect to the
internet.  

My router is configured with the logon credentials required for my ISP which
is PPPoE.  

I am also using KDE and I didn't have to configure anything once I had
installed Mandrake or Redhat.

If you are using PPPoE as the connection type on your XP machine you might
have to disable that and just configure it to use TCP/IP.  then it should be
great.  

If you have nothing to lose or time to waste.  Just go get a DSL Router
(Cheap one is Lynksys) I have one of these for a backup works great in my
opinion. You should also have a Ethernet DSL modem provided by ISP.  Then
plug in modem and router.  Plug in HUB if necessary.  Plug in pc's.  Turn on
modem.  Turn on Router once modem is initialized.  Turn on pc. ( I used
windows to configure router ).  Configure router with logon credentials.
Then reinstall OS on each machine while plugged in and they should work
right after install.


Hope this helps it is a little rough around the edges but it is what I did.

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MSN Broadband


And then I'll be able to have both of my computers, (my Windoze desktop, and
my 
now Linux Laptop use the same connection?  How exactly, (in newbie speak)
would 
I accomplish that.  I need info from where to go once I'm logged onto my 
system, (I'm using KDE) to what the settings would be.  I can't get any info

out of MSN Support.  Also, would I have to change anything on my WinXP pc?

Quoting David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You need both.  The router sits behind the modem and will handle the
log-on
> 
> efforts for your DSL connection.  Then the computers you plug into the
other
> 
> end of the routr will be able to use the DSL connection normally without 
> using the MSN explorer P.O.S.
> 
> On Wednesday 11 September 2002 09:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Why would I need a router?  The modem itself won't work?
> >
> > Quoting David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > You don't need the MSN exporer garbage.  You should configure your
> > > gateway router to supply the username/password to the DSL service,
then
> > > all machines
> > >
> > > behind (in your private network) can use the DSL service as normal.
> > >
> > > I have accomplished this feat on a friends network without problem.
If
> > > you
> > >
> > > don't have a broadband router, you'll need one.
> 






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