Simon& Ernie,
We really appreciate all the help we recieved from all of you.
Actually, its my son's box (he's 14)witch he built from componants he bought
from the local computer show,Azus mb running a petium 233 chip. the drive
was given to him,WD Caviar 1gig. We tried setting it up as primary master
but could'nt,Bios would only reconize it as a primary slave. Thought
something was wrong but didn't really investigate it. He installed Linux
several times and always ended up with the scrolling 10's. We started
posting querries! Thats when you guys made us start looking more closely
at the drive setup, we took the jumper off (single drive setup) reconnected
the data cable and checked the Bios, AHa, showed up as primary master,my son
reinstalled Linux and there she Blows! By the way ,the Bios setup is on
Auto on all drives.
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> (Ernie,FYI the third option is usually labelled CSEL, it's a supposedly
> semi-automatic setting that I've never seen working!!!)
>
> Jan, I didn't really want to mention this step that I had to do because I
> wasn't sure that it made any difference in the end. But here goes.
>
> What I had was a machine that had LBA set up, and I couldn't get Linux to
> work. It would install, but I had a kernel problem of some kind. I then
saw
> a post where someone mentioned that LBA is incompatible with Linux. (Hey,
I
> was young, I didn't know better.)
>
> The only problem was, the automatic detect on my BIOS would not allow me
to
> use normal. So I low level formatted the drive to normal. (Don't ask!). I
> could then set everything to normal, install Linux, I was away.
>
> Of course, then I got introduced to number 10 and his cohorts. Going back
> to the postings, I saw the chap who had mentioned LBA had been put
straight
> in no uncertain terms, so I had the wonderful process of getting
everything
> back to LBA. Which included an LBA low level format.
>
> BTW, I have no idea what a low level format using the wrong disc layout
can
> do to the disc, so please don't try it unless you don't really care.
>
> So, after weeks of toing and froing, I got back to an LBA system, with a
> working Linux. Or rather, I got back to the same place, where my other
> problems appeared, but the 10's didn't.
>
> What I am trying to say is, it may not be enough that your BIOS is LBA,
you
> may need an LBA drive. I don't know how big your drives are, but if
they're
> less than 528Mb (I think), it is possible that you have a 'normal' drive.
Go
> to your drives website, take a look at support, and see what they say
about
> it. Because I go for branded HD's, the support is always first rate, with
> all info available. This included a comment that the particular drives I
was
> working with could be formatted normal or LBA, which convinced me it was
> alright to do a wrong format low level format. You may also be able to get
> the info off your drive. Alternatively, if you want to post your machine
> specs, I'm sure we can do the digging for you.
>
> It does sound like that you have a prebuilt PC, alot of prebuilt ones have
> fixed HD jumpers, along with fixed everything else, which means that you
may
> not be able to make it master. That shouldn't make any difference though,
> although I would recommend you don't put a CD-ROM on the master. The speed
> drop is ridiculous!!
>
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
>
>
> Jan,
>
> Most of the IDE HD's I've worked with have a jumper on the back of the
case
> which can be set to tell the Disk what it is (Master, Slave, or ... I
forget
> the third one-)), however the labeling is usually fairly self explanatory,
> or there is a diagram on the case of the HD which you can use to configure
> the thing. You must set this to the required position, as well as in the
> BIOS set up. Hope this helps,
>
> Ernie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
>
>
> > I set the BIOS disk type to LBA,Normal,and Large and the 10's still came
> up.
> > Also for some reason I can't set the drive to primary master I can only
> set
> > it to primary slave. I don't know if that would have an effect on it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 6:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> >
> >
> > > I think someone else has already mentioned the solution. It refers to
> the
> > > BIOS disk types being set to large or normal, when it should be LBA. I
> saw
> > > the same problem, and the solution worked for me.
> > >
> > >
> > > And for the other chap who said that they are LO's not 10's, they
looked
> > > suspicously like 10's to me, AND I hadn't installed LILO!!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> > >
> > >
> > > First question is: did you elect to start the x-server automatically,
> and
> > if
> > > so, are you sure that you installed the correct video driver for X? A
> > little
> > > information about your box, and the way you configured Linux would
help
> to
> > > limit the possibilities as well. Maybe someone else has seen this
> > behavior,
> > > but I haven't. Sorry I can't be of any more help,
> > >
> > > Ernie
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:11 AM
> > > Subject: [newbie] running linux
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am having trouble running Linux. Instalation went fine but
when
> > my
> > > > computer loads up, it looks like linux is going to load up but a
bunch
> > of
> > > > number 10's go scrolling across my screen and I can't do anything
else
> > but
> > > > shut the computer down. Any help is aprieciated.
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > Ian Herbert
> > > >
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