On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 11:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 10:12 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > SK> After viewing the page source, I am of the opinion that the > > page was SK> done in FP2000 or XP...but I could be wrong... > > > > Okay, I well understand I think, but right or wrong is not the > > question. I have to do business with these people Monday through > > Friday, every day of the year except national holidays. So, I need > > a comfortable view of what they are providing, regardless of their > > adherence to STANDARDS. <g> My question at this point is how do I > > comfortably view their output, regardless of how oblivious to or > > complicitous with the Redmond monopoly they might be? Redmond be > > damned, I have to look at that site, every day, so I need a way to > > see that site completely and correctly, regardless of the > > shortsightedness of the webmaster. > > I was very surprised at what I saw there, as I usually find that > Konqueror copes with pages that do not display correctly in Mozilla, > not the other way round. > > The situation is , however, that if pages are not constructed to look > well in both IE and non-M$ bowsers the only thing you can do is have > a number of browsers available and try until you find one that works. > Undesirable, but that is reality. Pages will not display identically > in different browsers, but should be reasonable in all. If they are > not they are badly written, and there is no answer to that. > > Anne
You will find many sites that do not look the same in a standards compliant browser as they do in Internet Explorer. You will also come across many sites who test what browser you are using and then present you with a page suggesting you "upgrade" to Internet Explorer. We get these issues because Microsoft design the tools to build these pages and deliberately make them non IE hostile. It is a legacy of the "browser wars". To get around the problem you can either :- Educate the webmasters - A slow and generally unsuccessful task. But with MicroSoft losing the battle for market share in the PDA and mobile telephone market it is something webmasters will have to face eventually. Use a browser who tries to copy IE (and so be non compliant with standards) - Most free browsers support some of the proprietary aspects of IE, but none support them all. Or - Run IE Yes you can run IE under Linux. I keep it as my browser of last resort. IE can run under Wine. Wine is a reverse engineering of the API layer of Windows so Windows apps can run natively under Linux (Wine Is Not an Emulator == WINE, gettit?) Wine is hard to set up for a newbie and not all Windows apps run correctly under it yet. To make life easier you can buy a commerial version of Wine called Crossover Office from www.codeweavers.com It will run IE, MicroSoft Office, and a number of other apps under Linux. It is easy to install, and the supported apps run well, but do not have high hopes for any non-supported app. derek -- ---------------------------------- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
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