On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:03:57PM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > Two more bugs to report:
> > > 
> > > 1)  By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE devices. 
> > > Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I encountered
> > > the following errors:
> > 
> > Um, no 6.1 shiped without the ide patch
> 
> What does that mean??  My boot logs show "DMA" turned on for the hard drive
> and CDROM.  /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime DOES seem to affect whether
> DMA is turned on at the end of the boot.

It means that it didn't ship with DMA on by default.. (plz take note i
didn't personaly package the kernel, but i did just double check)
"
kernel-2.2-i586.config:# CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO is not set
"
so the kernel is not the culpret.

verifying /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime, is not so hard to test.
comment out the actual "hdparm -q -d1 blah blah" and replace it with a
touch /axalon.sux

(for the extra paranoid it checks also for "nohdparm", opti will do other
things also further along)

I am curious as to what MB and HD controler your useing.

> > > [SNIP]
> > > 
> > > Finally, I modified /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime to change the -d1 to
> > > -d0 in the hdparm line and rebooted the machine.
> > 
> > This only gets used if opti is specified on the cmdline, 
> 
> "opti" is not specified on the cmdline.  As above, mandrake_everytime DOES
> seem to have an effect on whether DMA is enabled or not at the end of the
> boot.

Damn.. i typed this above (forgot it was down here but knew it was here)

> > > After the reboot, I again attempted the copy only to be greeted with the
> > > same errors followed by:
> > >
> > > [SNIP] 
> > > Thinking that I'd simply bypass the bad judgement on Mandrake's part, I
> > > moved to compiling my own kernel.  Once again, I'm hit with a bug:
> > > 
> > > 2)  Inability to compile a kernel.  Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields:
> > > 
> > > [SNIP]
> > > 
> > > * RPM packaging is supposed to ensure that binary packages are reliably
> > >   recreatable using the source package.  If I can't even get the resulting
> > >   source to build, how did you manage to compile the thing in the first 
> > >   place?
> > 
> > The cflags get put there by rpm, (there was a non fuctional %post to check
> > gcc --version for 2.95+, actualy it functions but only if gcc is
> > installed at the time) Have a gander at the src.rpm
> 
> Fine, so how did it end up in the distribution if the only gcc package you
> ship is gcc-fr?  How did it NOT get caught during testing?  Surely SOMEONE
> must have tried to build a kernel!  It's not like it's slightly broke, it
> just plain doesn't work.  Blatantly!

pgcc, gcc, and egcs, all provide a link gcc. this is whats being tested,
not specificly what compiler package is installed. 

(again not my package, but) kernel is one of the exceptions that is not
compiled with pgcc, think it was egcs (chmouel,bero ?). I remeber it was
something to do with io ports 

Seems it will happen only on a clean install
also doesn't seem the gcc check was ever applyed to the cooker .spec

> > > * Where the hell is the quality testing?!  I've only owned this
> > >   distribution for two days and already I've tripped over three bugs that
> > >   should not happen.
> > > [SNIP]
> > > the problem.  Actually, I don't think I've even seen a response from anyone
> > > at Mandrake for any of the reported problems.
> > 
> > You guys really want to download 30+ megs to not have to manual edit a
> > CFLAGS= ?
> 
> You guys want to keep hearing the complaints?  It's broke.  Fix it.  Is that
> really so difficult to comprehend?  Sheesh, you'd think Mandrake would want
> to get that one fixed for sheer "brown paper bag" value.
>  
> > > I'm not a clueless, confused, newbie user.  I'm not adverse to fixing these
> > > problems myself.  However, I'd prefer the opportunity to shoot MYSELF in the
> > > foot prior to Mandrake grabbing the gun and doing it for me.
> > > 
> > > Well?  You got my money, how about giving me a workable product for it?
> > > 
> > > Consider putting that on a bulletin board somewhere.  You'd do well to take
> > > it to heart.
> 
> 

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