On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 9:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Friends ,
>
> I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
> installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
> vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
> fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
> aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error.
But my
> system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard
!! )
> . I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
> suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
> the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
> not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But
after
> installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
> crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
> about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit
is 400
> W Zalman.
>
> Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I
understand ??
> And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux
is
> much more stable , so what is this ?????
>
> And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ?
or
> should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Hertas.
The fact that it crashes in Linux and in Windows immediately indicates a
hardware problem.
Typical causes of crashes are usually memory problems or thermal. You
are 
using good quality components, but if you are over clocking or using 
aggressive memory timings you could be operating in  marginal stability.
Often memory problems are more obvious in Linux than in Windows because
Linux 
uses all the memory  (for disc caching) while in Windows the upper
memory 
areas can be virtually unused.

To find the problem install memtest86 from your Mandrake CDs. It will
put a 
new entry in Lilo.  Boot into memtest86 and run a test for several
hours. 
There should be *no* failures at all.

As for what to do when a crash happens. It is possible the crash has
only 
affected your Window Manager in which case the kernel is still running.
There 
is a page in the Mandrake On line manual which tells you how to do a
graceful 
shutdown using Alt+SysRq+r, Alt+SysRq+s, Alt+SysRq+t, Alt+SysRq+e, but
if it 
is a kernel panic then the only thing to do is power off.

derek
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-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??

Derek,

Doh! I should have thought of memtest but never crossed my mind, I am
using Corsair value matched pairs so I expect them to have had some
testing done but being value does that mean they didn't make the grade
as fully fledged matched pairs? I will install that tonight when I get
home from work and run over night. As for undoing the freeze I have
tried all the key combinations from the page and nothing happens at all.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony S. Sykes 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??

Well mine has gone belly up again since I did an urpmi --update. Seemed
to load my kernel source again? Now it just stops after lilo. Never got
chance to do the memtest or cpuburn. Not able to get back to it until
Thursday so I will be debugging it then. Any hints/tips much
appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

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