I am sure that this is true, but still, he should atleast offer his help in
a manner that does not make the newbies offended. That is what this list is
about -- newbies communicating and exchanging their information for the
benefit of the entire group. So, Steve, I ask that you will atleast become
a little more understanding. Thanks
Drew Jackman
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Valjean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking]
> Now wait, Stephen has been immensely helpful. Simply by reading his
> posts, I have learned a lot, and for the most part been able to setup my
> network. He's not the first and last word on networking but he seems to
> know what he's talking about so let him speak.
> Valjean
> thanks Stephen
>
> On 16 Apr 2000, Jaguar wrote:
>
> > As a side point to this thread...
> > Who the hell made you, Stephen, _THE_ first and last word on Networks.
Yes I
> > agree "typo's" confuse newbie's, but I think they are adult enough to
choose
> > which IP subnet they want to use. And isn't this a forum for newbie
> > questions/problems/mistakes????
> > If you are SOOOOOO knowledgable please excuse yourself from our
newbieness,
> > and hop on over to the expert list.
> > My $0.02 worth.
> > Jaguar
> >
> > "Stephen F. Bosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Mark Chaikelson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I'm interpreting what you said correctly ...
> > > >
> > > > First set up the linux gateway to receive its Internet connection
(from
> > campus) on
> > > > eth0. Once you've tested that and ensured that your Internet
connection
> > is working
> > > > on the Linux gateway, then set up eth1 to be some virtual ip
address. For
> > example,
> > > > in my network, I have eth0 set up as the IP address given to me from
a
> > cable modem
> > > > connection, and then eth1 is set to 192.168.0.1
> > >
> > > This is good so far...
> > >
> > > > The other computers in my network, which get their Internet
connection
> > through the
> > > > linux gateway are 192.16.8.0.2 - 102.168.0.5.
> > >
> > > Whoa whoa whoa WHOA!
> > >
> > > Is there something in the water?
> > >
> > > The first address has *5* (count 'em) octets -- that's a completely
> > > illegal address -- and the second one has got to be a typo -- these
two
> > > addresses are on different networks.
> > >
> > > People, *please* - if you're going to start fiddling with gateways and
> > > masquerading, get a decent book on the fundamentals of TCP/IP first!
You
> > > can't administer a gateway server unless you do -- you're just asking
> > > for trouble.
> > >
> > > Let's go over it again, just to be sure.
> > >
> > > The three private networks are, in order of size:
> > >
> > > 10.0.0.0 (class A)
> > > 172.16.0.0 (class B)
> > > 192.168.0.0 (class C (there are actually a set of them))
> > >
> > > And yes, before everybody hollers "it was just a typo!" - typos ARE
bad
> > > because they completely confuse newbies and just create a lot of
misery
> > > for everybody.
> > >
> > > I don't like people using anything but Class C addresses for home
> > > networks. You do NOT need a Class A (16 MILLION addresses) network to
> > > run 3 machines on your home LAN! If you do use one you make it much
> > > easier to screw something up and make the whole thing not work.... and
> > > with some people using Class Bs and some using Cs, you get people
> > > writing this:
> > >
> > > "Machine A has an IP of 172.168.2.10 and my gateway is 192.168.0.1 --
it
> > > doesn't work! Please help!"
> > >
> > > If you don't know what a network class is or what it means, or what
the
> > > difference between a network and a node address is, *get a book on
> > > TCP/IP*.
> > >
> > > -Stephen-
> >
> >
> > The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.
> >
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