Charles A Edwards wrote:
>    I Will make this statement regarding it. If you install via ISO rather
> than buying, and have never used Mandrake
> before: 7.1 will be much more difficult to set up and use than 7.0 .
> 

Charles....I copied the last paragraph of the below quoted
message and put it above to respond to it.

I don't really understand why you say "7.1 will be much more
difficult to set up and use than 7.0 ."  It does not appear to
me to be more difficult for anyone to either use or install,
newbie or not.  It is IMHO, just as easy to install as 7.0
at the very least.  What is it that IYHO, makes it more
difficult?  The possibility of additional choices after the
installation, the need to change CD's when told to do so
during the installation?  What?

With so many more programs already installed and on the menu
system for easy launching, I think that it is much easier for
the newbie just because it won't be necesssary to go out,
find, and install a desired program only to run into
installation problems, dependency problems, launching
problems, problems creating a menu entry (or desktop
icon)....etc.

Linux Mandrake 7.1 sure seems to me to be a significant step
forward in Linux user friendliness, not a backwards one as you
seem to feel it is. :-)

Alan


Charles A Edwards wrote:
> 
>    After following the thread of several of the Discussion Post I thought I
> should post some of the differances between version 7.0 and 7.1( beta 3 ).
>    I installed 7.1 yesterday and have not had the chance to fully explore it
> therefore the changes I am listing are the most obvious.
>    LILO is no more instead GRUB is used as the boot loader.( During
> installation I was given no option in this. It was installed automaticly and
> I was given no option to create a boot disk. If this will be true in the
> final release or only applies to the Beta I do not know.)
>    The How To included with 7.1 are the same as in 7.0 so you can not use
> them to implement any of the additional features of 7.1 .
>    Your computer USB controller is now automaticlly seen by Mandrake
> allowing for the use of  additionl USB devices such as modems and Zip
> drives. Even then they only work with a direct computer connection not if
> you use a USB hub.
>    Several programs/enhancements have been added:
>       DVD Player
>       ICQ clone
>       Quick Time and MP3 player
>       Win Amp clone
>       Ati TV Tuner/drivers
>       DOS and even a Windows imulator
>       more......
>    The included programs have nearly doubled as evidenced by the fact that
> 7.1 consisted of 2 ISO image files with a combined size of almost 1100MB
>    The increased number of programs has also increased the number of
> duplicate type programs: multiple; text editors, chat programs, 4 CD burner
> programs, image viewers, and others that did not jump right out at me.
>    Kppp has been changed to an Internet icon on the desktop though setting
> it up is the same.
>    The biggest noticeable change is in KDE. All programs and options are now
> available through its menu. You can completly fill your screen ten fold with
> menu screen and still not have opened them all. You feel like a mouse in a
> maze except that someone cheated and blocked all the corridors.Instead of
> becoming easier to use KDE has become more complicated.
>    As I said I have been using 7.1 for 1 day and then only for a couple of
> hours so I am not making any judgements as to its abilitites or to its
> worrthiness as a successor to 7.0. Those observations can only be made after
> using 7.1 for a significant ammount of time and becoming familiar with all
> its nuances and inhancements.
>    I Will make this statement regarding it. If you install via ISO rather
> than buying, and have never used Mandrake
> before: 7.1 will be much more difficult to set up and use than 7.0 .
> 
>    Charles

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