Dan LaBine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Dan LaBine
>
> Okay, Okay, Now Kiss and Make Up ! The Pissing contest ends here and now !
> The problem here is that you're all right to some extent, and that's
causing
> all the disagreement.
> Point #1 ) Darren,..You're right about this forum being for Linux help &
> news, but you're wrong about Windows95 being an operating system. But at
the
> same time you're also right about it being an operating system. Confused,
> yet ? Not counting the upgrades of the various versions of Win95, there
were
> THREE releases. The first, Win95 A, was a little too close to DOS for
> comfort, because they (Microsoft) hadn't quite nailed the 32 bit system.
> Win95 B came a long way towards that goal, and fixed an enormous batch of
> "Bugs". Win95 C (The last release), was the closest that Windows95 would
> come. Unfortunately, it wasn't as backwards compatible as most of us would
I hate to tell ya...there were also versions D and E of Win95
Jaguar
> have liked. But Darren, if an O/S was just an O/S, we wouldn't be here
> having this conversation.
>
> Point #2 ) Tom,...You're right on the money. Good to see someone focused on
> the best O/S on the planet, so far!
>
> Point #3 ) Adrian,...You're absolutely right about Windows3.0, and 3.11,
but
> way out in left field on Windows95. It was an O/S all by itself, but I will
> admit that it was a "Clunky" one that was full of problems. The first
> version of Win95 (as previously mentioned, it is referred to as "A"), was
> intended to pave the way to get rid of DOS. I aggree that it didn't do a
> great job, but it wasn't running on DOS. Sorry. If you're Win98 system
> crashes when you try to run PKZIP, then you haven't allowed sufficient
> memory resources to your DOS prompt ICON. It runs just fine on every system
> I've ever had it on, including Windows98 SE. The question here is why use
it
> at all?? Why not Winzip??
>
> Anyway, I just thought you guys could use a break from pissing each other
> off. I assume that the reason that your all here, instead of hanging around
> the Microsoft forums, is because you're all gratified in seeing that there
> are excellent alternatives to Windows. Linux is the first one that is
> becoming "User Friendly". I would like to think that it will become the
next
> "Technological Marvel" accepted and used by Billions, er um, Millions of
> satisfied people. But
> why all the stress guys? What's it gonna prove? Don't think that just
> because someone writes an article in a magazine, that the article is a
> profound parable from a prophet or some thing. These guys make mistakes
too.
> And remember that these articles are also the writers' opinion, not
> necessarily facts ! The whole thing with Linux is that you should learn ,
> and that involves personal experience, and studying, and playing with it.
> That's half the fun. You can screw it up as much as you want, write new
> apps, fix old apps, anything, and Linux will keep coming back for more!
> Anyway, that's my four cents!
>
> By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss something??
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
>
>
> > Yes i agree. But, 1. this is for linux news not personal views on
Windows.
> > 2. The claims (which are obviously biased) that Win9x is not on operating
> > system is just rediculous. Despite any personal feeling you may have
about
> > the OS it is still plain and simply, an Operating System. I would prefer
> to
> > not spend my time dealing with this subject anymore. This is a mailing
> list
> > for people seeking knowledge and one bad "opinion" from a person may have
> a
> > severe effect on someone just starting out. Limiting their experience and
> > personal growth in everything that is out there. Each OS has something to
> > offer. Let us try to not be so racist. That is my only point.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > > > It would be better if you actually researched something before you
> went
> > > > spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making
> yourself
> > > > look completely incompetant.
> > >
> > > We don't need personal attacks here either. Everyone is
> > > _entitled_ to give their opinions, experience, etc... right or wrong
> > > Gawd I know sometimes it's just a little brain fade on my part ;)
> > > Chill out a little.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, I hear cooker's fixin to be in an internal
> > > code freeze in 'bout 2 weeks. KDE2 and XF-4 should be release
> > > grade by then also. My guess, look for Mandrake 7.2 come late
> > > September/early October. XF-4, KDE2, and the fixable problems fixed
> > > with those some of y'all had with 7.1
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > somebody said:
> > > > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just
> > shells,
> > > > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It
> contains
> > a
> > > > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support
> long
> > > > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a
> > few
> > > > > cosmetic changes."
> > > > >
> > > > > nooooooo.....
> > > > > don't make me go balistic.
> > > > > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the
> name
> > of
> > > > many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the
> > things
> > > > some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along
> > with
> > > > the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer &
> > sent
> > > > that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course,
> M$
> > > > denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may
> have
> > a
> > > > new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better
> > job of
> > > > hiding DOS.
> > > > >
> > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the
> > hood.
> > > > one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in
> a
> > DOS
> > > > box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had
> to
> > come
> > > > up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98.
> > > > >
> > > > > that's my opinion....
> > > > > and you all know what opinions are like
> > > > > *haha*
> > > > >
> > > > > adrian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Adrian Smith
> > > > > 'de telepone dude
> > > > > Telecom Dept.
> > > > > x 7042
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
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