There was??? Must've been a U.S. thing! M$ never told us about 'em. You're
not thinking about upgrade version, R Ya?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaguar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*]


> Dan LaBine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Dan LaBine
> >
> > Okay, Okay, Now Kiss and Make Up ! The Pissing contest ends here and now
!
> > The problem here is that you're all right to some extent, and that's
> causing
> > all the disagreement.
> >  Point #1 ) Darren,..You're right about this forum being for Linux help
&
> > news, but you're wrong about Windows95 being an operating system. But at
> the
> > same time you're also right about it being an operating system.
Confused,
> > yet ? Not counting the upgrades of the various versions of Win95, there
> were
> > THREE releases. The first, Win95 A, was a little too close to DOS for
> > comfort, because they (Microsoft) hadn't quite nailed the 32 bit system.
> > Win95 B came a long way towards that goal, and fixed an enormous batch
of
> > "Bugs". Win95 C (The last release), was the closest that Windows95 would
> > come. Unfortunately, it wasn't as backwards compatible as most of us
would
>
> I hate to tell ya...there were also versions D and E of Win95
> Jaguar
>
>
> > have liked. But Darren, if an O/S was just an O/S, we wouldn't be here
> > having this conversation.
> >
> > Point #2 ) Tom,...You're right on the money. Good to see someone focused
on
> > the best O/S on the planet, so far!
> >
> > Point #3 ) Adrian,...You're absolutely right about Windows3.0, and 3.11,
> but
> > way out in left field on Windows95. It was an O/S all by itself, but I
will
> > admit that it was a "Clunky" one that was full of problems. The first
> > version of Win95 (as previously mentioned, it is referred to as "A"),
was
> > intended to pave the way to get rid of DOS. I aggree that it didn't do a
> > great job, but it wasn't running on DOS. Sorry. If you're Win98 system
> > crashes when you try to run PKZIP, then you haven't allowed sufficient
> > memory resources to your DOS prompt ICON. It runs just fine on every
system
> > I've ever had it on, including Windows98 SE. The question here is why
use
> it
> > at all?? Why not Winzip??
> >
> > Anyway, I just thought you guys could use a break from pissing each
other
> > off. I assume that the reason that your all here, instead of hanging
around
> > the Microsoft forums, is because you're all gratified in seeing that
there
> > are excellent alternatives to Windows. Linux is the first one that is
> > becoming "User Friendly". I would like to think that it will become the
> next
> > "Technological Marvel" accepted and used by Billions, er um, Millions of
> > satisfied people. But
> > why all the stress guys? What's it gonna prove? Don't think that just
> > because someone writes an article in a magazine, that the article is a
> > profound parable from a prophet or some thing. These guys make mistakes
> too.
> > And remember that these articles are also the writers' opinion, not
> > necessarily facts ! The whole thing with Linux is that you should learn
,
> > and that involves personal experience, and studying, and playing with
it.
> > That's half the fun. You can screw it up as much as you want, write new
> > apps, fix old apps, anything, and Linux will keep coming back for more!
> > Anyway, that's my four cents!
> >
> > By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss
something??
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> >
> >
> > > Yes i agree. But, 1. this is for linux news not personal views on
> Windows.
> > > 2. The claims (which are obviously biased) that Win9x is not on
operating
> > > system is just rediculous. Despite any personal feeling you may have
> about
> > > the OS it is still plain and simply, an Operating System. I would
prefer
> > to
> > > not spend my time dealing with this subject anymore. This is a mailing
> > list
> > > for people seeking knowledge and one bad "opinion" from a person may
have
> > a
> > > severe effect on someone just starting out. Limiting their experience
and
> > > personal growth in everything that is out there. Each OS has something
to
> > > offer. Let us try to not be so racist. That is my only point.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > > > > It would be better if you actually researched something before you
> > went
> > > > > spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making
> > yourself
> > > > > look completely incompetant.
> > > >
> > > >     We don't need personal attacks here either.  Everyone is
> > > > _entitled_ to give their opinions, experience, etc... right or wrong
> > > > Gawd I know sometimes it's just a little brain fade on my part ;)
> > > > Chill out a little.
> > > >
> > > >     In the meantime, I hear cooker's fixin to be in an internal
> > > > code freeze in 'bout 2 weeks.  KDE2 and XF-4 should be release
> > > > grade by then also.  My guess, look for Mandrake 7.2 come late
> > > > September/early October.  XF-4, KDE2, and the fixable problems fixed
> > > > with those some of y'all had with 7.1
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ~~   Tom Brinkman    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > somebody said:
> > > > > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just
> > > shells,
> > > > > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It
> > contains
> > > a
> > > > > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support
> > long
> > > > > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95
with a
> > > few
> > > > > > cosmetic changes."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nooooooo.....
> > > > > > don't make me go balistic.
> > > > > > win95 is not an OS.  win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the
> > name
> > > of
> > > > > many of the DOS files so no one would know it.  this was on of the
> > > things
> > > > > some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out
(along
> > > with
> > > > > the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your
computer &
> > > sent
> > > > > that information to M$ when you logged on the internet).  of
course,
> > M$
> > > > > denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true.  it may
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly
better
> > > job of
> > > > > hiding DOS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under
the
> > > hood.
> > > > > one case in point.  PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine
in
> > a
> > > DOS
> > > > > box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash.  PKWare
had
> > to
> > > come
> > > > > up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that's my opinion....
> > > > > > and you all know what opinions are like
> > > > > > *haha*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > adrian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adrian Smith
> > > > > > 'de telepone dude
> > > > > > Telecom Dept.
> > > > > > x 7042
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
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