Mark wrote: > I've noticed that most linux apps do a lot less error > checking and are a lot more rough around the corner's, but this is > understandable since a lot of the programs are created during the > programmer's free time. Thanks, Mark. I'm still trying to develop my Linux paradigm, and your points are well-taken. > Also, you can always download the code and fix it > yourself (IF YOU'RE A PROGRAMMER TOO!).... Hoping to move in that direction in the not-too-distant future. I've done a little programming in the past, but MS has spoiled me to death (or BSOD, more specifically...). Bring it on, Linux! - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson > Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 08:32 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > I think a lot of times we use apps and OS interchangeably. While the the > Linux OS is very stable and robust, there are many Linux programs that are > not (Netscape 6 for example). This has nothing to do with the OS > but rather > with how robust the code is which is solely the programmer's > task. And this > speaks to the point of view of who cares about the OS if the apps > running on > it aren't usable. Linux programmers tend to be more hackers than > "programmers". I've noticed that most linux apps do a lot less error > checking and are a lot more rough around the corner's, but this is > understandable since a lot of the programs are created during the > programmer's free time. Also, you can always download the code and fix it > yourself (IF YOU'RE A PROGRAMMER TOO!).... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Abraham Pinzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > Mark - > > Admittedly, I don't know entirely what I'm doing yet. And more > importantly, > the platform itself is appreciably more robust than anything I've > ever seen > from MS. I'm not griping about the platform. > > Actually, I'm not griping about the applications, either. I > salute all those > whose efforts have made my experience thus far so effortless. My point is > merely that there's more work to be done. A truly robust > application will be > able to handle any input (even 0 bees) gracefully. > > Is that not a fairly uncontroversial sentiment? > > - Av - > > -- > Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver > > Sent: Monday, 04 December, 2000 05:40 > > To: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake > > Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > Av...what was so well stated about that. All that proves is > that he's able > > to do embarrase himself in public and mutilate his Penguin. You > know what > > I do with users like that at work? I sit them down and compell them to > > READ the user manual(s) for the apps that they're proving unable to get > > along with so that they stop causing such unnecessary trouble! > > > > -- > > Mark > > > > / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat > > * in order to get the rats up from below decks > > * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! > > * > > * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 > > */ > > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 Abraham Pinzur had this to say! > > > > > > > > Well stated, Ed. I too appreciate the stable platform, but > the apps are > > > sometimes a different story. I installed Linux for the express > > purpose of > > > getting more experience on the nitty-gritty end of things... =) > > > > > > - Av - > > > > > > -- > > > Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. > Edward McCain > > > > Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 22:27 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are right, of course, Linux is a paradise for coders and > > > > programmers, > > > > > but beyond that truth is another, even bigger truth. That is > > > > that Linux is > > > > > incredibly stable and powerful as a home PC platform as well as a > > > > > dependable business workstation platform > > > > > > > > Er, I've managed to crash the entire platform twice and > wreak havoc on > > > > numerous apps just by playing around in my account (NOT as root) > > > > > > > > Example: > > > > kde control center > > > > look and feel > > > > screensaver > > > > kswarm > > > > setup > > > > move the 'number of bees' slider to 0 > > > > this causes the application to 'crash' > > > > > > > > Others are less reproducable, but I can cause Kmail to crash by > > > > grabbing a > > > > email that I cc'ed to myself, replying to it and changing the > > > > subject line > > > > and body - or something like that. I was being silly and I > > crashed kmail > > > > twice before I got the hint. > > > > > > > > True, my account didn't terminate on those occasions, but > > what's a stable > > > > platform without stable applications? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > R. Edward McCain > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > icq: 599146 > > > > Registered Linux User #196613 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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