yeah, My opinion is pretty similiar.. I was rather fond of Redhats update tool, and mandrake 7.2's, it was faster and while it had its flaws, was simplier and cleaner and faster then 8.1's versions. (actually, mandrake should make a webmin module or similiar for both rpmdrake and MandrakeUpdate, it would make remote updates much better, it would probably be faster, and it would very likely be easy since the framework is already there. It would also remove the overhead of all the GUI crap..
I would have prefered that mandrake had kept that as its base and extended upon it rather then start from scratch as they did. now we have a whole new prog to debug, and its got its own set of unique problems. the old KISS standard went out the window with the 8.1 version... its getting bigger, slower and that in itself is introducing more problems that its fixing. All you really need is a patched 7.2 version, and when it gets kernel anything in it, and the kernel is selected, it pops up a second application dedicated to just that, installing the kernel. lets look at an example shall we? Postfix is as good as any. Postfix is broken into many parts, all working together. and it is faster, more secure (each part only has the permissions to do what it needs to and no more.) its faster because only the bit that needs to be running is running. as a result it uses less memory and CPU and is faster to boot.. Thats what mandrake need to do, break some of thier bigger apps up into smaller bits working together... and for gots sake simplify the method that rpmdrake/MandrakeUpdate categorises the available packages and sources. personally I wish the 7.2 version worked on 8.1, I'd be there in a shot. (even faster if it was the Redhat version.) Mandrake is great, but its not perfect yet, I'm hoping they don't start taking a leaf out of Microshafts book. rgds Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Grant Fraser Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2001 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with Software Manager Here is something that I have noticed about software manager. It only works until the next reboot. Then you have to remove the old source and pick an new one that you have not used before. Oh, and when it says 'Updating Lists' it doesn't. It only gets that information once. When you try to install a package that has been upgraded on the server SM can't find it. Say if SM was looking for package1_3_1 and it was now package1_3_2 it would just say that the package couldn't be found. So far I havn't found the "Get off your butt and recheck the server you stupid piece of crap" button. I mean really, I have to wait while it reloads the information that it already has and is out of date. On Sunday 30 December 2001 02:32, you wrote: > This appears to be a common problem in 8.1 software manager. > I have used the following solution after wasting 2 days of reinstalling, > searching, reinstalling: > > delete all references to the ftp site in: > /var/lib/urpmi > > Software manager should work again. > Reload the list of security sites, and don't choose the offending site (nor > the one I choose : ftp. club-internet.fr ...) > > Good luck > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mr_tortoise (Nathan > Pryor) > Sent: sábado 29 de diciembre de 2001 18:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] problem with Software Manager > > > Hello. The Mandrake Software Manager freezes on startup when it attempts > to refresh the security update source I defined (ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu). > I have checked the ftp site and can logon anonymously with no problem. I > did not provide a username and password for the security update source > thinking it would logon anonymously by default. Is there any way I can > delete me current settings without running the Software Manager? > > -thanks ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: ----------------------------------------
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