Thx much, your explanation was concise & wonderfully phrased. :)

Ever consider a job as a support person!? :P
I know I appreciated the answer as it outlined some answers to my own
questions I had yet to ask of the list.

Merci Monsieur Parish

Femme

Brian Parish wrote:
> 
> Heather,
> 
> No thickness or slowness is evident.  Your willingness to ask "simple"
> questions is I am sure appreciated by many readers of this list.
> 
> Anyway...
> 
> The great thing about RPMs is that they know what to do with
> themselves.  I find the easiest way to deal with them is to download to
> my home drectory and then in a console do the following:
> 
> rpm -ivh name-of-app.rpm
> 
> The ivh means: Install Verbose Hash
> 
> Install is obvious.  Verbose means tell me what you are doing.  Hash
> means to print out 50 hash marks indicating progress.
> 
> If you are upgrading a package rather than installing it the first time,
> substitute a "U" (uppercase) for the "i". (Note: NEVER do this if
> installing a kernel).
> 
> One other useful tip is for when you are installing a number of packages
> which depend on each other.  Rather than trying to sort out which to
> install first, just put them all in a directory, cd to it and say:
> 
> rpm -ivh *
> 
> or
> 
> rpm -Uvh *
> 
> if upgrading.  The U option will be the same as "i" if the package was
> not previously installed BTW.
> 
> Now - it worked, but where did it go?
> The answer - it depends.  You knew that didn't you? ;-)
> 
> Usually it will end up with the executable in /usr/bin, which will be on
> your path.  First thing to try is to log in as a normal user (you did
> the RPM thing as root of course) and type the app's name in a console.
> If this works, you know you are looking for a binary of that name in a
> directory on your path (probably /usr/bin).
> 
> If it's a GUI app and you would like to make an icon for it, do this in
> KDE or something similar in other environments:
> 
> right click on the desktop
> click on "Create New"
> click on "Link to Application"
> click on the "Execute" tab
> click on "Browse"
> find your app and select it
> click on the "General" tab
> replace the words "Link to Application" with whatever name you would
> like to appear under your icon
> click on the gear icon and select something appropriate (or not)
> click OK
> 
> Now you should be able to execute your new app by clicking on the icon.
> 
> Finally, there is also a more scientific method find the files.  After
> you have installed the rpm, use the command:
> 
> rpm -ql package-name
> 
> this will list all the files, including directories.  Sometimes it can
> be tricky working out what the package name really was.
> 
> rpm -qa | grep first-part-of-name
> 
> can be useful here.  The qa is query all, which by itself gets you a
> complete list of all RPMs installed.  The "| grep ..." bit pipes the
> output of the query into grep and searches for the characters you
> typed.  Here's an example:
> 
> $ rpm -qa | grep kernel
> kernel-2.4.8-26mdk
> kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk
> kernel-doc-2.4.8-26mdk
> kernel-2.4.8-34.1mdk
> kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk
> 
> HTH
> Brian
> 
> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:17, Heather Reed wrote:
> > Hi again
> >     Sorry to be asking all these stupid questions. I uninstalled gaim from 
>software manager, and downloaded a newer version, which I have stored in my root 
>directory. However, I can't get either software manager or package manager to find it 
>(KDE). In package manager I set /rrot/ as a search path, but still nothing.  I tried 
>to install it by clicking on the icon, and it went through an install procedure, 
>telling me it had been installed successfully, but there is no icon for it, so if it 
>has installed, I don't know where it is! I know I am still mentally in windows, so 
>have probably done something wrong :-(( So - when I download rpms from the net, where 
>do I put them so that they can be seen by package manager or software manager, or 
>alternatively, how do I know the right directory to install them to using the console 
>or whatever is needed?
> > Once again, apologies for being a bit thick and slow :-))
> > Heather
> 
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