What was the original question to this posting?   

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:29:51 +0900
Pascal Pascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> john rigby wrote:
> 
> > Hi Shane,
> > Sorry you are disqualified, too!   :-)
> > You are obviously very techo if not Geek!
> >
> > What I'm chasing is whether any non-tech/geek people have ever
> > succeeded. These are Users.
> > People who simply want to make/improve their earning capacity via
> > increased productivity.
> > People who are ancient - like over 30.
> 
> At last I found a field in which I can qualify!
> 
> > Vis:
> > Anyone who has previously successfully installed any kind of Network
> > is disqualified. :-)
> 
> Oops! I am disqualified! I happened once to plug a localtalk cable to a
> laserprinter.
> And it worked.
> 
> > Anyone who LOVES the challenge of computer exercises.
> > The THRILL of recovering trashed records, totalled systems.
> 
> No, seriously this time:
> 
> As for the success history:
> 
> I have bought Mandrake 8.0 powerpack. Once I inserted the disks, I had
> to follow the menus only and I didn't have to reply to obscure questions
> Every board was detected, the printer worked at once. As for the
> network, yes, I had to condigure it (i.e. I had to choose "DHCP" to
> connect to my modem), and that was it. KMail worked at once, KWord,
> K-everything. So to summarize, I didn't have to configure anything
> except DHCP and the screen resolution after first reboot.
> As for FrontPage, I don't know, I have never used it. But netscape's
> editor works well for all what I want to do.
> 
> As a comparison, I didn't success to fully install Win 98. it asks
> obscure questions, it needs 4 or 5 reboots + one extra reboot after each
> driver install.
> And the top, the cherry on top of the cake: when you install a driver,
> Win is not even able to find the driver itself in the floppy / CD you
> insert. You have to point the path. It is not even capable of knowing
> that it has to search not in the NT directory, but in the W98. This was
> the end of my w98 experience. Fortunately, I didn't pay for it. Well,
> this is way off-topic.
> 
> Sorry. Back to Mandrake.
> 
> Now the critics:
> - Installing the system in Japanese is not smooth and there is some work
> to be done. Not very geeky, but nevertheless it has to be done. I am
> looking foreward to installing 8.2. to see how it works (I couldn't get
> an error-less download yet, so I guess I'll have to wait for the CDS).
> - CD burning software is geeky (at least for me). I opened the GUIs for
> CD burning, and there are tons of buttons, asking me whether I want
> ISO something, Joliet (or was it Romeo???) or whatever. So I bought a
> G4 and I fry my CDs with it. By the way, does anyone know a _SIMPLE_
> GUI for CD burning on Linux? I mean an interface with 3 buttons: burn,
> erase, and open file? A further choice music / data / disc image would
> be acceptable although it should be the burner's job to decide what to
> do according to the contents. All the geeky stuff should be in the
> prefs.
> 
> 
> As for the productivity, it never freezes. Win used to freeze once a
> day, or at least several times a week. From that point, it was as stable
> as MacOS. But now, I didn't freeze Linux over about 1 year. I also like
> the ability of writing pdf files, and I have a high compatibility degree
> with my colleagues.
> I really hope Japanese will work out of the box for later releases in
> order to start Linux evangelism here.
> 
> That's about it for the "usable out of the box" subject.
> 
> As a conclusion:
> - as long as you install an english (and probably all
> other western language) system, you get everything working at once
> without computer knowledge. All the network / ISP parameters are on
> your ISP contract.
> - There are still a few geeky softwares that you have to get used to.
> Although this is not an OS issue, the average end user does not
> necessary understand where the OS / application border is.
> 
> Yes, there are some first go success stories with a very minimal
> knowledge. Well, if you don't know what a mouse is, like president
> Chirac, I'm not sure you will success.
> 
> Pascal
> 
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