On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 15:33, FemmeFatale wrote: > I know theres a thread on this already but... and I'm not sure if I > asked this, so bear with me. > > I've recently attempted to "Upgrade" all my sys apps on LM8.0. > DUMMMMMMMMB Move. > > *Sigh* Needless to say things are a mess. > > Is there a way to avoid this somehow? And I don't like Ximian Gnome, so > I don't know if redcarpet can work without that program. > > *Has had enough Gnome problems thx for now* > Oh & it has to be "user-stupid" ;) > > > Femme
I anologize this to the days when I used to attempt glibc upgrades so I could get the latest slick gui app working. Evidently it's just plain problematic to try stuff like this; even today. I've come to believe that these unsuccessful attempts just spotlight the importance of the hard work that goes into a complete Mandrake distribution. After some bad experiences with glibc upgrades under Redhat 5.2 (and subsequent distros, too; I'm hard headed), I adopted the practice of two main methods: 1) Save the current configuration/data and fix it so that it is easily integratable into a clean install. This paves the way for either the next stable distro, or a beta distro. 2) Spot upgrade of individual applications, sometimes forcing minimal breakage of existing dependencies. This is most often non-fatal, if you're lucky. Case in point: Evolution email client. The version of this app shipped with LM81 was something like 0.13. Yahoo recently forced all it's users to SMTP password authentication; Kmail does not support that. Therefore, I had to change email clients. Evolution was my choice after some web evaluation, however I did'nt want to go to 0.13, it was too lacking. I found Evolution version 1.02 in a 586 MDK package, but it was in the Cooker collection. After attempting install of evolution-1.0.2-4mdk.i586.rpm, I found that it required the installation of the following packages: libdb3.3-3.3.11-7mdk.i586.rpm libgal19-0.19-4mdk.i586.rpm GConf-1.0.8-2mdk.i586.rpm libGConf1-1.0.8-2mdk.i586.rpm gtkhtml-1.0.1-3mdk.i586.rpm libgtkhtml20-1.0.1-3mdk.i586.rpm libcapplet1-1.5.11-2mdk.i586.rpm Since I was desperate, I decided to go through with it. One of these packages ( I think it was GConf) would not install without breaking some dependencies to the version of GConf installed with LM81. I forced the issue, and fortunately everything is still working flawlessly. Now this is just one application. Dependencies are a complicated thing when you are taking into account a large number of applications. This is why the Mandrake people are so important; they work the bugs out of these dependency problems in the next stable distribution. No small task. That's just one reason why I made a point to subscribe to the Mandrake club. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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