Wally wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > My main problem with man is that I have to know the name of the command in
> > order to access the man file. Well, there's a bunch of commands with
> > not-always-intuitive names and I don't have the sharpest memory.
 
I'm trying to address the same (similar) problem(s) by using a wiki
(actually TWiki).  I've created a page now called SearchingText (and
dedicated it to Carroll Grigsby).  Try going to
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/WebSearch and try the following
searches:

   * simple search, check "topic name" and search for "searchingtext",
"search", "searching", or "text".
   * simple search, check "topic text" and search for the same terms

As stated on the SearchingText page, twiki.org is indexed by Google, so
after twiki.org is indexed by Google (one to two months on current
cycles), you could search Google for this page, including using the site
qualifier "site:twiki.org" as part of the search query.

If I learn how, I will try to get Google to index the site more
frequently, assuming I can do so on a no cost basis -- otherwise I may
look for "sponsors" of some sort.

One of my points is this -- a wiki is a collaborative tool.  Anyone who
registers (you need to pick a wiki name, a password, and specify the
country you are from, IIRC), can register and then edit or add pages. 
If you think this is a useful effort, feel free to register and
participate.  
Eventually I plan to move WikiLearn to it's own site on sourceforge --
if anyone wants to help in that effort, take a look at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/WikiLearnToDos.

Randy Kramer

> What I'd like to see is a browsable front end. Not a GUI deal, just some
> text-mode screen that uses handy things like the arrow/esc/enter keys to let
> one move around dirs and files, letting one do useful stuff like 'read
> docs', 'get quick help', 'install', 'run', etc. Plenty of such stuff like
> that for DOS, but I don't think I've seen similar mentioned amongst linux
> people.
> 
> Another problem is that it can be bewildering when there are so many choices
> for a given app (like text editors). On the MD8.1 download, they're just
> dumped into a single RPMs directory - how on earth is a newbie supposed to
> manage when the app he might or might not want is buried somewhere in a list
> of 2000 files? With an all-too-often obscure
> "xmc3-2.11-mightworkifyou'relucky.rpm" file name.
> 
> > One solution
> > that I've found useful is the Linux Cookbook -- available on paper and
> also
> > online at www.nostarch.com. It's task oriented, so that if I want to
> search
> > for a specific bit of text, and I can't remember whether I should use grep
> > (or is it "gerp"? "grope"?) or some other tool, a few minutes scanning the
> > chapter on searching text gets me pointed in the right direction.
> 
> I'll have a look. Was at the local computer mega-store today (getting the
> modem) and had a look at their linux books. I didn't really feel that any of
> them fitted the bill - quite a few based around RedHat 7.x,  but I'm not
> sure how relevant that would be to Mandrake 8.1.
> 
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