My friend just ordered an AF-S 28-70/2.8 for the same price as the new AF-S 80-200/2.8 (which he didn't order). That was in Finland and the retail price was 2400 euros, the street prices are usually 20% less. Nicam in Italy list the AF-S 28-70/2.8 for 1704 euros. They have a (slow) website at www.nicam.it/index2.htm. Wurzburger Fotoversand has it at DEM 3500 (ca. 1800 euros). See www.technikdirekt.de/ The price keeps me from trading my 35-70/2.8, yet. Ilkka