Blair Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>       Carlo Guerrero wrote:
> 
> > The Quick Recall button does offer several variations in preferred
> > settings.  But is this enough?
> > 
> > IMO, it isn't.  There will always be the time that you will need to
> > adjust something which isn't programmed in your QR memory. 
> > 
>       Jeez people, get over the N70 business.  Nothing will ever be
> perfect for everyone, that's why manufacturers have a "product line"
to meet
> a need.  The N/F70 is an immensely popular camera that I'm sure
Nikon is
> making a bundle off of and users are taking great pictures with. 
Galen
> Rowell endorses it, and if he can use one perched on a rock face
then I
> seriously doubt that Nikon will change the interface, nor will it
will be
> removed from the line-up any time soon, unless there is an upgrade
for this
> remarkable camera.  
> 
>       I thought about trading mine for an N90s, but kept it because of the
> things it can do that the N90s can't. I bought the N90s for the
things it
> CAN do and the N70 can't.  Otherwise they're remarkably similar
tools, that
> do similar things, buy the one that most closely suits your needs
and use
> it.  Let us know when you can't figure something out and someone
will most
> likely help you.  I know the limitatons and have never let those
limitations
> hinder me.  I have published photographs with an N70 and the cheapo
plastic
> 28-80 lens that came with it.  I have a style that suits me and my
cameras
> are set for that style and I change it when I need to.  If I have to
be
> terribly fast on a change then I make mistakes.  I'd much rather
miss one
> picture than fuck up 36 because of an avoidable mistake.
> 
>       Buy an F5, F100, N90, N70 or whatever, it makes no difference.  If
> you don't like it . . . sell it and buy another.  Your reasons for
doing
> either are legitimate for you but to purposefully slam a tool that
someone
> else uses to great success because you're either a) too lazy or b) too
> stupid to learn how to make it work for you is wrong . . . IMHO!
> 
>       Have a good day.
> 

It seems that the F70 debate has gotten Blair Ellis really upset.

My comments about the F70 were based on my opinion and my shooting
style and my need.  Some people also feel the same as I do, and some
don't.

Now is this debate going anywhere?  Yes and No.  (No) Some people miss
the point totally. It is not the picture taking ability of the F70
which is in question!  It is the ease, rather the difficulty of
operation of the F70's controls.  We might have accepted it as
something close to the F90's but since the release of the F5, F60, and
F100, Nikon has shown us that they are capable of coming up with a
user interface which is far simpler and quicker than that of the F70's.

(Yes) This debate is important.  It's what you call consumer feedback.
The F70's layout, if you study it very well, is very logical. 
Push,turn, push, turn - But I would say time consuming.  People
reacted to it by pointing out that there is what you call a QR button.
 So, how many combinations can you program? For some, more than
enough, for me, too little. So, is it easier to operate in changing
conditions? Our answers hopefully reach Nikon.

Do I think that this debate will affect Nikon's future replacement,
the F80?  I hope so. We are users of Nikon equipment.  Our experiences
help make the next camera or lens.  Just like the mech drive 80-200
f/2.8D.  Why did they include a tripod collar just recently...to an
existing formula?  Why in 1996 and not in 1992?

I don't think laziness and stupidity count as factors in designing
Nikon equipment.

Maybe the right question to ask is, Will you want an F60 style layout
or an F5/F100 layout for the F80, or retain the old F70 layout?  Your
answers hopefully will show the way.

Happy shooting.  

Carlo
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