>A simple, but skill requiring method of leaving the leader out on the >F5 is to release your finger from rewind button 2 ( the one on the >eft top plate) as the film gets to the end. I have tried this and >find I can be quite precise. However, I still think it is easier to >use my Ilford film retriever thingy- it only takes 10 seconds to get >the leader out using this. Using a film retriever is a lot safer too. I fogged the first 4 frames on a roll this weekend trying to leave the leader out. It's a real trick to get it just right.