You say "this sounds like the opposite of promises solving a problem",
which I assume would mean promises creating a problem? This obviously
conflicts with the "abstraction not mattering" part. Everything I said was
to reinforce the point that the abstraction doesn't matter and demonstrate
how zalgo's still a footgun for promises. So I was generally agreeing with
you, except with the part where you called Juraj's statement a flat out lie
-- it was more of an underestimation of the zalgo on Juraj's part :)


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Scott González <scott.gonza...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com>wrote:
>
>> Which means you have to wrap pretty much any zalgo-promise, or use some
>> goofy apply mechanism. Assuming you meticulously add all this boilerplate
>> then yes, at this point Juraj is right. It "solves" the problem (with a
>> nextTick or equivalent, of course). But at what cost?
>>
>
> This sounds like the opposite of promises solving a problem, and exactly
> like what Isaac said about abstraction not mattering. As soon as you use
> nextTick() or equivalent, you've proven the point that being consistently
> async is what matters, not the abstraction over function invocation.
>
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