Foundation shouldn't be that much. I think you are thinking of Standard. The 
only benefit Std over Fnd is HA which we aren't doing on our non-prod 
environment.

We do however want to manage it with VC as we do with all our hosts, hence we 
need to pay for that.

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From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Yeah, ESXi should be about $70 usd with Dell on the 2950's.  But the foundation 
virtual center licseanse, which you will want, is about 3K.  You don't 'have' 
to have it, but managing a virtual infrasture, even with one ESX box, is much 
nicer with Virtual Center.

________________________________
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

OK i think i see what's going on here.

ESXi in both flavour (installable or embedded is indeed free) the issue we had 
was to be able to manage it with Virtual Center which is our choice requires a 
Virtual Center Agent. ESXi doesnt not come licensed with a VC Agent. Hence you 
still need to buy either Foundation $995, Standard $2995, Enterprise $5750 
software. We were being quoted for the Standard license on top which is where 
the extra 3k came from on the quote. The standard license is what we have been 
buying of later, so i guess he figured that would be ok this time.

So i think it is going to be at least a foundation license for this one just so 
we can use it with Virtual Center.

You know i have to hand it to these Vmware guys. Every feature from the ground 
up requires a different license and additional software to work with the other. 
The prime example being you can buy an Enterprise license but to drive any of 
it you need to cough up for Virtual Center! :)

ahh well.

Greg


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From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

So the installable version is free, but the embedded isn't? i am getting this 
right ?

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From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

No. You did. :)


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

The installable version is free right now.  OP is asking about the embedded 
version.   Are you suggesting that Dell, HP, IBM, etc. will stop charging for 
the embedded version?


From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

ESXi will be free in a few weeks so anything more than $0 is too much.

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Sorry no

server is 11k and esxi is 3k on its own if we go the embedded option.

I am not willing to pay 3k when i can download it for freeeee!!

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From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question
Wow, 3k for the server *and* esxi I hope? Who cares about it being embedded? My 
esxi runs on two small 36 gig sas mirrored drives, and the rest of the space 
holds iso’s :)
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vmware ESXi question

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg






























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