Mike Dymond wrote:
In fact looking at the licence, clauses 6 and 7 are contradictory! How can I
copy the copyright notice which contains the publishers name which is more than
likely PI and then not use that very same PI to indicate compatibility. Surely
including the publishers name in section 15 does just that, it implies
endorsement!
Actually, it doesn't imply endorsement at all. Quite the opposite.

Now, if I included a statement in my product: "This product is compatible with all products listed in Section 15!" Then, potentially, someone could push through a lawsuit aimed at my unlawful use of the trademarks in Section 15 to indicate compatibility.

On a tangent subject: I'm planning to include a bibliography in an upcoming D20 project. Perforce, the bibliography includes a large number of trademarks. I'm planning to include the statement following statement to cover myself just in case: "The use of any trademarks in the bibliography should not be taken as an indication of compatibility or co-adaptability."

Anyone see any problems with that?

I have absolutely no problem with other publishers using the OGC that I have
created, in fact I would actively encourage it, but I have some severe
reservations about them using my company name without my permission! This is so
obviously open to abuse!
Then don't put your company name in your Section 15. If you put it into your Section 15 you have explicitly licensed its use.

What is stopping someone from getting hold of the section 15s from the most
popular d20 products and simply including them in their section 15 in order to
gain a competitive advantage (small advantage I agree but possibly significant).
What competitive advantage would that be, exactly?

This is exactly what I am talking about. There are some huge licences that are
in the proces of being converted to d20 and I would like to know how they (the
IPR owners) would feel about their tademarks being used in this way! And don't
forget that companies like Sony have big pockets and big lawyers!
The only people they can go after are their license holders... assuming those license holders actually violated their license by sub-licensing those trademarks.

If you aren't happy with the terms of the OGL, then don't use the OGL. But it's more than a little hypocritical being worried about people using your name without permission when, by your logic, you are using the names of other companies without their permission.

Justin Bacon
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