And, as always, the best way to gain knowledge of the product
architecture is to ask lots of questions on this list.  I can pretty
much count on one hand the number of questions that have been asked
about how the code works internally, a statistic I find quite
depressing, since that is a good indication on how many people are
even interested in helping out.

Rick

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Dan Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick has a point.  Acting on counsel I examined the SF site more closely
> and I found an extensive list of things to do.  I do not possess the C++
> skills or the knowledge of the product architecture I would need to
> participate with David, Rick, or Mark, but I did find something on the
> list that I think I can do, and, Rick is correct, it will give me some
> idea of how to work with the development environment.
>
> Now, if someone will just give me the userid and password I need to
> actually enter the repository and look at it in Tortoise, I will
> proceed.  The message box is attached.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick McGuire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 15:50
> To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
>
> Yes, the solution is always "have the already overbooked core team do
> more".  I'm getting tired of that answer too.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Rick McGuire wrote:
>>
>>> The continued health of this project requires an active, growing
>>> community.
>>
>> IBM let ObjectRexx off the leash about eight years late for that. If
> ooRexx
>> had
>> been open sourced before Ruby came forward ... sigh ...
>>
>> It *is* a very small community and the language doesn't have a
> specific
>> mission.
>>
>> PHP does simple websites.
>> Ruby does fancier ones.
>> Perl does sysadmin and CGI.
>>
>> What does ObjectRexx address that would have people flying around the
>> country to conferences
>> and embracing it like they do for Ruby and Perl?
>>
>> The problem isn't so much that you need more of the techies who play
> with
>> OORexx already.
>> The problem is that you (we) need to enunciate a mission for
> ObjectRexx and
>> go recruit more
>> techies who stand behind such a mission into our little ObjectRexx
> army.
>>
>> What can ObjectRexx do (aside from "be fun to program in") better than
> the
>> other
>> open source languages with established communities? Answer that and
> you
>> answer
>> our labor shortage.
>>
>> For me the answer is, "It's a very easy scripting language and
> BSF4Rexx made
>> it the
>> easiest way to script Java." Until I started my own Open Source
> Project
>> PigIron
>> to provide Java access to z/VM SMAPI I liked Object Rexx (since 1995)
> but
>> had never
>> before found the value proposition to use it for anything real. Now
> I've got
>> a value
>> proposition, this complete ObjectRexx interface to z/VM SMAPI that
> started
>> as simply
>> a testing tool for the underlying Java code.
>>
>> In the meantime, Rick, are you leveraging the (admittedly few)
> resources
>> that are already
>> at your disposal to try to get help?
>>
>> have you broken this down into some well-factored tasks/assignments
>> are these tasks posted in the Tasks section of the ooRexx SourceForge
> site?
>> Do you have recruitment notices posted on SourceForge?
>>
>> Also, why don't we try to convince editor Jon Erickson to hook you up
> with a
>> Guru blog
>> on Dr. Dobb's CodeTalk and you can publicize a bit and maybe draw some
> users
>> in there?
>> I've certainly been mentioning ObjectRexx there, e.g. Calling Java
> from Open
>> Object Rexx
>>
>> Maybe we can "start a buzz" as the youngsters say.
>>
>> --
>> Jack J. Woehr            # "Self-delusion is
>> http://www.well.com/~jax #  half the battle!"
>> http://www.softwoehr.com #  - Zippy the Pinhead
>>
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