Rick,

are you saying that you wish more people would get involved with the C++
routines at the heart of the interpreter?
I know you once offered to teach me C++ (I thought it was a joke at the
time).

Jon

PS: as ever I am really impressed by the amount that you guys manage to do
and the speed with which you do it, & for me, I feel that it goes without
saying that I am incredibly grateful.

2008/10/2 Rick McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> And, as always, the best way to gain knowledge of the product
> architecture is to ask lots of questions on this list.  I can pretty
> much count on one hand the number of questions that have been asked
> about how the code works internally, a statistic I find quite
> depressing, since that is a good indication on how many people are
> even interested in helping out.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Dan Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rick has a point.  Acting on counsel I examined the SF site more closely
> > and I found an extensive list of things to do.  I do not possess the C++
> > skills or the knowledge of the product architecture I would need to
> > participate with David, Rick, or Mark, but I did find something on the
> > list that I think I can do, and, Rick is correct, it will give me some
> > idea of how to work with the development environment.
> >
> > Now, if someone will just give me the userid and password I need to
> > actually enter the repository and look at it in Tortoise, I will
> > proceed.  The message box is attached.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick McGuire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 15:50
> > To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
> >
> > Yes, the solution is always "have the already overbooked core team do
> > more".  I'm getting tired of that answer too.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Rick McGuire wrote:
> >>
> >>> The continued health of this project requires an active, growing
> >>> community.
> >>
> >> IBM let ObjectRexx off the leash about eight years late for that. If
> > ooRexx
> >> had
> >> been open sourced before Ruby came forward ... sigh ...
> >>
> >> It *is* a very small community and the language doesn't have a
> > specific
> >> mission.
> >>
> >> PHP does simple websites.
> >> Ruby does fancier ones.
> >> Perl does sysadmin and CGI.
> >>
> >> What does ObjectRexx address that would have people flying around the
> >> country to conferences
> >> and embracing it like they do for Ruby and Perl?
> >>
> >> The problem isn't so much that you need more of the techies who play
> > with
> >> OORexx already.
> >> The problem is that you (we) need to enunciate a mission for
> > ObjectRexx and
> >> go recruit more
> >> techies who stand behind such a mission into our little ObjectRexx
> > army.
> >>
> >> What can ObjectRexx do (aside from "be fun to program in") better than
> > the
> >> other
> >> open source languages with established communities? Answer that and
> > you
> >> answer
> >> our labor shortage.
> >>
> >> For me the answer is, "It's a very easy scripting language and
> > BSF4Rexx made
> >> it the
> >> easiest way to script Java." Until I started my own Open Source
> > Project
> >> PigIron
> >> to provide Java access to z/VM SMAPI I liked Object Rexx (since 1995)
> > but
> >> had never
> >> before found the value proposition to use it for anything real. Now
> > I've got
> >> a value
> >> proposition, this complete ObjectRexx interface to z/VM SMAPI that
> > started
> >> as simply
> >> a testing tool for the underlying Java code.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, Rick, are you leveraging the (admittedly few)
> > resources
> >> that are already
> >> at your disposal to try to get help?
> >>
> >> have you broken this down into some well-factored tasks/assignments
> >> are these tasks posted in the Tasks section of the ooRexx SourceForge
> > site?
> >> Do you have recruitment notices posted on SourceForge?
> >>
> >> Also, why don't we try to convince editor Jon Erickson to hook you up
> > with a
> >> Guru blog
> >> on Dr. Dobb's CodeTalk and you can publicize a bit and maybe draw some
> > users
> >> in there?
> >> I've certainly been mentioning ObjectRexx there, e.g. Calling Java
> > from Open
> >> Object Rexx
> >>
> >> Maybe we can "start a buzz" as the youngsters say.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jack J. Woehr            # "Self-delusion is
> >> http://www.well.com/~jax <http://www.well.com/%7Ejax> #  half the
> battle!"
> >> http://www.softwoehr.com #  - Zippy the Pinhead
> >>
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