Erin, Amitabh, thank you very much for posting about this, I couldn't
agree more.

Just to remember, I have asked 3 months ago for corrected weekly
numbers and patiently have been waiting for a "fix". That "fix" would
be essential to discuss about the current ranking algorithm, which
produces some very weird results.

For example, apps that don't have a profile view seem to have a
correct weekly number (Portuguese rankings):

8o: MindJolt Games, 771 WU (weekly users)
9o: OK Jogos: 940 WU
10: Merial Meu Pet: 883 WU

In contrast to that, there is this "odrible" app with at least 10k
users per week (data from the server), for about 76k installs, that
is, a retention MUCH greater that any of the 1st page apps. And yet,
it is only in 59th position in the directory!!!

Unfortunately, it has been like this since the last ranking algorithm
change back in March. It would be very interesting to know why the
algorithm favours so much these three apps, for example.

Thank you very much and nick weekend for all.

On 25 ago, 06:22, Amitabh Sharma <sharma.amit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with erin,
>              It would be very helpful on orkut team's part to have some sort
> of regulation on the apps. More importantly i have hardly seen the orkut dev
> guidelines being followed, if it is impossible for orkut team to monitor
> everything, then i suggest a community be delegated the powers at least to
> report such apps to, which can further take up the matter with orkut team if
> it deems necessary.
>
> Also, if we could consider the app directory listings, the listings are
> based on most number of installs .There are apps with hundreds of thousands
> of installs but hardly a couple of thousand daily active users and being
> listed on the front page.
>
> I request orkut developer team to consider and address some of these issues.
>
> - Amit
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Erin Thomas <erinthomas1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I would like to bring to your notice that there are a lot of fake/fradulent
> > applications that are running on Orkut, like people stealing other people's
> > XML's with the same name and re-submitting the application, same apps
> > repeated for more than once. I dont have any personal grudge against these
> > developers.My intentions are clear, I feel Orkut should be more responsible
> > while approving apps, Also you should strictly remove apps which dont have
> > any sense or which are not working by monitoring them once in a
> > while.Otherwise *alot of talented developers who make their best efforts
> > day and night in making outstanding apps for Orkut alone will not be
> > appreciated for their hardwork, as you guys dont even care the quality of
> > the apps you approve,the best ones are always pushed to the back pages and
> > are not even viewed by other Orkut Users. Dont approve apps just for the
> > sake of showing more count of apps in Orkut than any other social networking
> > site.*
>
> >    - One such user is* Swarnava Sengupta*
>
> >  You can see his apps here
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=Sw...
> >> His first application "Send Scrap to All", is repeated at the 4th postion
> >> on the same page mentioned above.Once you click this app
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=444304650431&ref=SR,the
> >> name of the app changes to "Stop Woking",whereas the repeat app
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=705523577439&ref=SRdoesnt
> >> even work,but gives an error "Unable to retrieve:
> >>http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/114699564936817898687/wor...
> >> ".
> >> The same is the problem with "Remind Me - Absolutely Free SMS
> >> Reminder",which shows the error "Unsupported feature:
> >> org.apache.shindig.common.xml.XmlException: Content is not allowed in
> >> prolog. At: (1,1)".
>
> >>    - * Some of the Apps that are repeated in the directory:*
>
> >>    1.
> >>    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=IF...
> >>    2.
> >>    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=RE...
> >>    3.
> >>    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=BU...
> >>    4.
> >>    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=DR...
> >>    5.
> >>    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=UL...
>
> >> There are more repeated apps..Right now I've managed to find these
> >> only..will post more if you need.
>
> >    - *Violating Orkut's Policy:*
>
> > This app is using google's logo and also it doesnt work at all.
>
> >          http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=20062620106
>
> >>    - *In Movies and TV category:*
>
> >>                There are a lot of apps which doesnt even make any
> >> sense..like Katrina Kaif Photo Gallery,Angelina Jolie Gallery,Aishwarya Rai
> >> Gallery,Preity Zinta,Ayesha Takia,Deepika Padukone..Why do you make it too
> >> simple for people to make apps by just showing celebrities photos gallery?
>
> >> App developer Prashant,Smita,Orkutfans has the most number of celebrity
> >> gallery apps..It a shame to see all these apps being approved in Orkut.
>
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=pr...
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=smita
>
> >>http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=or...
>
> >> *This is really ridiculous..*
> >> Why do you approve all these spammer's apps? All other websites
> >> like (Facebook,MySpace,Bebo,Ning,Friendster,Hi5) which use the opensocial
> >> apis make sure they approve quality apps for their websites.Why can't Orkut
> >> make sure only good apps are running on their website?Also *Try to filter
> >> out the repeated apps from the directory.*
>
> >> Hope you guys will look into this matter as soons as possible.Please dont
> >> discourage genuine developers.
>
> >> Thanks& Regards,
> >> Erin
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