Don Cragun wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:24:29, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
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>> So let me state right up front -- almost anyone can volunteer to be an
>> Intern, which is a mandatory step before becoming a full PSARC member.
>> I'd *really* like to see more external Interns (right now we only have
>> Mark Martin, and I don't think he's going to remain an Intern much
>> longer... he's on track for Membership.)
>>
>
> Garrett,
> Actually, you have two external interns (Mark and me). I doubt, however,
> that I'm on track to become a full member.
>
>
>> At ARC we have some 'technology' issues which are making it hard for
>> non-Sun parties to participate, but we can work around those for now.
>>
>
> The following "technology issues" have been making it hard for non-Sun
> parties to participate for more than six months:
> 1. The posted meeting agenda for external participants (
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/announcements/ ) is over
> a week old by the time PSARC meets. Some fast track cases on the
> agenda have been closed before the meeting starts; some cases are
> discussed that are not on the agenda. This week's agenda shows that
> one full case is to be discussed, but I believe a second case has been
> added.
>
That should be easy to fix. Let me see if we can get that done in the
next week or so -- even if it requires someone manually synchronizing
the agenda.
> 2. External interns and members can't add case materials to the case
> directories except into the mail log without physical help from an
> internal
> member, intern, licensee, or administrative staff. (This is especially a
> nuisance when trying to add issues to the issues file for an upcoming
> case.)
>
Yes, its a real annoyance. Fixing this is probably not "trivial"... for
now the mail log and involvement of PSARC staff will have to do. I hope
to replace the whole infrastructure at some point with something that
works better for external members. The process of figuring out how to
do this has not even seriously started the investigation phase yet.
> 3. Issues files for full cases are frequently updated by internal
> participants
> just before or even during the meeting. External participants frequently
> aren't able to see these comments until hours after the meeting has
>
> concluded.
>
Hmm... that's annoying. I wonder if we can do something to trigger an
update to mirror this automatically.
> 4. Some half-duplex phones being used on some of the calls effectively block
> all input from other people trying to participate over the phone.
>
Really? I've not had a problem, and I use the same remote dial-in code
that other people use. However, maybe we can deal with this
procedurally. In the past the meetings have been rather free form, but
maybe more structure would be desirable... one way would be to require a
speaker to recognized by the chair. Doing this over the phone is
challenging, but if we could involve IRC side band, then at least OOB
notifications could be used. I'll bring this up at the next meeting
just to get other members thinking about the problem.
> Are there any plans (or even proposals) for fixing the known list of
> technology
> issues?
>
I put the technology issues on the agenda for a members-only discussion
for both PSARC and LSARC last week. Asa is still working on scheduling
this, I believe.
One of the higher priorities I have taken upon myself as PSARC chair is
to make some forward progress on this before my 3 month tenure is up.
- Garrett
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> Cheers,
> Don
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