Hi, all 

The updated proposal is posted at 
Internally 
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/464/proposal-v2.txt
Diff file 
http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/464/proposal.diff

Externally
???http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2008/464

I am reseting the time out to be August 4th. 

Thanks
--Irene
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:27 +0800, Jim Li wrote:
> I've updated the one page and summarized the question and answers.
> 
> Q1. There are some similar functionality projects.
> 
>     I'v listed the known project with similar function in the ARC material.
> 
> Q2. Mime type file extension conflicts.
>    
>     There is a potential Mime Type conflicts when integrating projects with
>     overlap functionality. Although Planner (LSARC/2008/454) and Openproj
>     are both project management tools, but they have their own file format
>     and different file extensions, *.planner and *mrprojects for Planner,
>     *.pod for Openproj.  There are no Mime type conflicts for Planner 
> and Openproj.
>     I'll keep my eyes on this kind of stuff in future.
> 
> Thanks
> Jim
> 
> 
> > Usually the "default app" is a user preference. As long as there is no 
> > conflict between the apps I think its ok to have as many as people 
> > want. I think the important part is making sure the default is easily 
> > changeable. I hate to use it as an example but Windows has the default 
> > programs control panel and also has some right menu selections that 
> > let you "Open file with..." type functionality so you can override the 
> > default when required. I'm pretty sure that functionality is already 
> > in gnome but it would be nice to have that confirmed as we add 
> > different packages with overlapping functionality.
> >
> > Which one we decide to make default is an other question. I'd vote 
> > "None of the above" and make the user pick except in the most obvious 
> > cases.
> >
> > Edward Hunter wrote:
> >> It seems like there is a business issue and an architectural issue 
> >> combined here.  The business issue is which consumer of the mime type 
> >> (or media format) does Sun pick as the winner.  That would be the 
> >> default out of the box.  We could of course choose not to pick one 
> >> and that is a decision too.  :-)
> >>
> >> The architectural question seems to be "if you pick a winner, does 
> >> that have a bad effect on the losers".  In other words does picking A 
> >> prevent B and C from functioning.  It sounds like in this case the 
> >> business case is to not pick a winner since we're integrating both 
> >> bits of software.  What is not clear to me is the side effects when 
> >> the end user chooses between the two (or three) choices.  In 
> >> particular if different users on the same system choose different 
> >> defaults is that a problem?  Sounds like no but I am not sure.
> >> -edh
> >>
> >>
> >> Torrey McMahon wrote:
> >>> Jim Li wrote:
> >>>> Torrey:
> >>>>>>> Not to start a flame-fest here but haven't we seen a lot of 
> >>>>>>> other projects come across lately that integrate functionality 
> >>>>>>> that matches an other project? Why would this be different?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think it is a problem to have duplicate functionality,
> >>>>>> personally.  I would just like to hear that the project teams 
> >>>>>> delivering
> >>>>>> related projects are talking together and formulating their plans 
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> each other in mind, cooperating with work on any common 
> >>>>>> dependencies,
> >>>>>> etc.  At least aware of each other. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All of engineering gets the ARC case submittal forms, right? ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seriously - I agree with you. One thing I'm sure we'll see is 
> >>>>> fighting mime types of file extensions in a lot of cases.
> >>>> Mime types of file extensions issue exists in all kind of systems, 
> >>>> so IMHO this is not a ARC issue. 
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure its *not* an ARC issue but I'm not raising it for this 
> >>> case. My point is that as we - And this is a generalization - add 
> >>> every single piece of FOSS software we can get our hands on to 
> >>> [Open]Solaris we're going to see more conflicts then we did in the 
> >>> past. The past being known for a lot less duplication and an 
> >>> unwillingness to have more then one tool do the same job.
> >>>
> >>> Media players are the easy example. How many have we integrated now? 
> >>> How is a user going to select the one they want and make it the 
> >>> default? Again, not a question for this case or this project team, 
> >>> but something we should figure out in the near term....if someone 
> >>> hasn't already.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> 


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