I hope that this is appropriate for PSARC-ext. I believe it is, but we should be aware that there is line we shouldn't cross, like naming the executive you'd like to "wrangle". BTW: What is "wrangle"?
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Joseph Kowalski wrote: >> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>> Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>> I'd be a fan of fewer things in /usr/bin, and perhaps longer search >>>> paths for users (/usr/bin, /usr/gnome/bin, /usr/X11/bin, /usr/games >>>> (or /usr/games/bin), etc. I'm not sure when the last time we >>>> modified the default search path for users was, though.... >>> >>> The big problem there is there is no system-wide default search path >>> for >>> users we can easily modify. dtlogin & gdm set a PATH for GUI logins, >>> and those have changed several times in the last few years. >> And often have gotten it wrong. There is a bug filed that >> /usr/ucb/bin somehow ended up at the end of the path. (Remember the >> Gingell memo?) >>> Indiana >>> ships a PATH in the ~/.profile it creates for new users (the ever >>> controversial "/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/bin" PATH). >> Sigh, right or wrong, good or bad,... The issue is that Indiana >> doesn't interact with Solaris (via the ARC or any other way). This >> is going to be a train wreck of massive proportions. > > Wait a minute. The Indiana folks work for Sun. The ARC folks work > for Sun. What member of the executive management do we have to > wrangle to get Indiana folks to participate in ARC. > > That said, the last two Indiana releases have been "Preview" releases, > and their absence at ARC may not be an accurate indication of their > intentions prior to full release. > > It would be helpful to hear what the intentions are from one or more > of the Indiana project leaders. It may simply be that ARC is viewed > by Indiana folks (inaccurately) as an ON-only entity, and therefore > somehow inapplicable for projects that aren't yet ready for ON. Ian has spoken to PSARC, and left this issue "hanging". My intuition is that the "Preview" label is the out being used. Of course, the same could be said about Solaris Express (its a Preview), but... The high order bit is "what is a GA product and what is not"? I think if we resolve this question, most of the details just fall out (well, that and the current state of the OpenSolaris constitution). > I still believe ARC early and ARC often should apply here, but maybe > the Indiana folks don't realize that they can (and should!) come to > ARC for inception, and/or umbrella review even before they have made > up their minds on all the details. > > Tim (added to CC list), can you check into this? > > -- Garrett >> >> - jek3 That said, I regret my "Aside" because it is too off tangent from this discussion. Let's not pursue this on this thread. I'm pretty sure it is on a couple of radar screens at the moment. - jek3
