[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Ghee Teo writes:
> >  
> >
> >>>It seems that this is already covered bby the Visual
> >>>Panels project;
> >>>I do not believe we should have two competing
> >>>projects except in cases
> >>>where there are very compelling reasons.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>  These may have been replied before in a similar vein, but it seems to be 
> th
> >>at visual panel is much more SMF oriented. 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >That's not intended to be the case.  If there's text in the vpanels 
> >project pages that led you to this belief, please point it out to us so 
> >we can fix it.
> >
> >  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/vpanels/
> >
> >(While we are extending SMF's capabilities to reduce specialized code
> >needed by visual panels and other administrative tools, the visual panels
> >experience will not be SMF-centric from the user's point of view.)
> >
> >liane
> >  
> >
> Darren has pointed to a chunk of the text concerning SMF in his reply.

Mentioning SMF for implementation isn't the same as being SMF-centric.  
We'll see if we can wordsmith this more to make it clear, but please 
read the last sentence in what Darren quoted.

> In his reply, he also highlighted another point which from the desktop's
> perpective and in the Open Source context, we have a gap to fill in from
> the Single Sys Admin's point of view. That is, the Desktop has to improved
> on a faster pace in terms of its usability lest we are eclipsed by our
> competitors (not to mention that we are in playing catch-up mode at
> moment).

You both seem to believe I'm objecting to creation of the SSA project.  
I'm not, and thought it's approval was complete.  I was just trying to
determine where your misapprehension about Visual Panels came from, and
if the place Darren identified is the only one, I appreciate the pointer.

> I have no doubt that vpanels is a great project :). But I also
> think that SSA and vp are complementary projects. One thing we do need
> to make sure to work on that the two works well together.

There is and should continue to be ongoing communication.  Darren 
explained many many days ago the relationship between the two projects, 
and I was quite satisfied with his explanation (and it wasn't a 
surprise either :) ).  You re-explained the relationship by saying 
Visual Panels was only SMF, and I was trying to correct that.  I remain 
satisfied with Darren's explanation about the projects' relationship.

> For example, how will vp be integrated into the desktop? How much of the
> overlapping configuration data can be managed/shared properly (guess in the
> area of control panel that Darren has mentioned).

Darren mentioned that configuration data should have one source.  That 
needs to be a given.  If anything SSA or Visual Panels (or any other
project!) does violates that rule, all usability is out the window.  If we
all stick to that, I'm confident we can work out the rest of the details.
I'm just not planning to work them out on opensolaris-discuss. :)

liane
-- 
Liane Praza, Solaris Kernel Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://blogs.sun.com/lianep


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