On 07/ 2/10 09:07 PM, Robert Milkowski wrote:
I understand that but all I'm saying is that it is simply wrong when
applied to something like Open Solaris development. There are
certainly technical people here involved with OSOL 2010.06 and with
/dev builds. Before Oracle I'm sure they would explain what the issue
is, etc.
Right now they can't and they keep silent. As I understand it it is
not their fault, it is Oracle's fault as a company. The problem is
that it has to be escalated to the management to get it right again.
Otherwise you are just discouraging lots of people, make some of your
best allies to go somewhere else, and you feed trolls as we've all
have seen.
Getting the balance between a corporate environment and an open source
product like Open Solaris right is tricky. While Sun not necessarily
did the best job it worked pretty good. IMHO there was about right
balance between Sun's developers and community having a dialog and
knowing what was going on. Cutting all of that for non-Oracle people
is not helping at all. It only makes people to reconsider their
options and possibly walk away from Open Solaris. I can't see how it
is going to help Oracle.
We've never had really much code contributions from the non-Sun folks
but we had some, including a couple from me. The problem is that the
current situation is so discouraging and I honestly hope it will
change really soon.
Again, I understand that developers are not to blame here but still it
needs to be changed.
I totally agree with everything Robert says.
If those of us who have invested a lot in this project over the past
five years are becoming disillusioned, what hope is there for growing
this community? The way things are now, I think community is no longer
the appropriate term.
Perhaps CAB should organize some kind of a petition and open letter
signed by community (both Sun and non-Sun people) which would state
what issues there are and it could be presented to senior management?
Perhaps if we organize a little bit it would make some difference.
It might get us somewhere, after all it was user action that saved
Solaris x86 form oblivion.
--
Ian.
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