On 07/24/10 07:06 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Shawn Walker<shawn.wal...@oracle.com>  wrote:

On 07/23/10 04:41 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
Why?  IPS was shoved down the community's throat in a heavy handed and 
decidedly not FOSS manner.

Sorry, but that's simply not true.

The pkg(5) project has been one of the few projects that is actually
very open.  It was the first to use defect.opensolaris.org for
bugtracking, it's licensed under the CDDL, and at the moment any
contributor (even external ones) can get commit access upon approval by
the project team members.

The basic OSS rules are:

-       release early

-       release often

The gate is public, so we release essentially every time there's a putback. If you mean a tarball, no, because this is an integrated distribution project.

-       port to many platforms.

It runs on GNU/Linux, BSD, (Open)Solaris, and AIX (reportedly). Although I should note that the primary focus and drive for the project is a well integrated packaging system that meets the needs of the OS distribution it is integrated with.

But there was no visibility and "testability" on SXCE and for this reason, it
missed most users I know.

Also not true. There are definitely individuals that use it on SXCE. Although I should note that's only for the depot server and user images. It is not intended to manage packages on a Solaris 10 system's '/' filesystem.

For now, IPS is used by one OpenSolaris distro only and this distro published
the last binary release nearly one year ago.

That's also not true. b134a was published in March -- that's nowhere close to a year.

Writing and publishing successful OSS is not only producing code. You need to
convince the users also with facts. The best way this can be done is by making
the software available everywhere (and creators of distributions have a big
change with getting new users by including software), but IPS did not appear
on SXCE...

It isn't mean to be in SXCE, so wasn't put there. I think you misunderstand its purpose.

Cheers,
-Shawn
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