On 08/10/10 11:45 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
Isn't this all what I've said right along? It's the only thing that makes sense: #1 Solaris is extremely out of date w.r.t. opensolaris. Oracle needs to release a commercially viable updated solaris while they still have an edge over BTRFS and Ontap. And other commercial OSes such as OSX that have not yet embraced ZFS. #2 Oracle sells servers, not laptops. They'll include a GUI, but it has always been, and will continue to be, a pretty basic gnome. Nothing flashy like aero or compiz or aqua. They are designing it to be servers. If you want a flashy laptop, use OSX, Windows, or Ubuntu.
Well I bought into Sun on their Workstation line. I don't need Servers. My MCAD program runs on Solaris and Windows only. I should switch to Windows?
#3 It does not make sense to discontinue development of opensolaris. Some day they'll have to make a solaris 12, you know. But they're diverting development away from opensolaris right now, to make *damn* sure they release solaris 11 this year. After that, development can resume on opensolaris, and then you can finally start seeing some efforts going into 2010.03 (or 2011.03 or whatever).
The development of Opensolaris is still continuing. Oracle just stopped public binary releases, why?
I've been using Unix since Interactive Unix. I switched to Solaris afterwards then started using Sun Workstations such as Ultra 2, then Blade 100 then Blade 2500. I've been using Unix for almost 20 years. I have no desire to change to Windows. Opensolaris was starting to compete good, I was showing off Opensolaris and have converted some Windows users. Then Oracle bought Sun. Something happened. These mail exploders have become very quit now. I use to see new Linux users all the time, at least one per week. Now none. All the enthusiasm is in the Desktop segment. Oracle may make more money initially, but I believe it's user base will start shrinking, unless they provide a Desktop environment.
I understand how Solaris next will be forked from Opensolaris. I think what well see now is Opensolaris will only be Kernel development, the development branch will not have binary releases anymore, and anything new and exciting will not be developed in Opensolaris anymore, at least no publicly and open sourced.
I hope I'm all wrong, I want to see Opensolaris continue as before. I thought if Sun continued a little longer they would have succeeded Linux, after all, Solaris/Opensolaris has a stable Kernel where Linux's Kernel is a moving target.
Paul
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