On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Kostas Koudaras <warlord...@gmail.com> wrote: > What I am going to say have much love inside them because you know you > are all my friends. > We have ambassadors in 47 countries which means that we have users of > openSUSE at 47 countries at least so making 47 different local mailing > lists would be great,if those ML's had traffic > If they don't those are practically useless. > > Now I will tell you what I made so that you see some things a bit more clear. > I asked a local mailing list when I thought I could work with it. I > asked a second one about translation when it became clear we needed > one. > The first question is if you really need one. By need I mean post > there almost daily and have members communicate and help each other > and inform people. Having a ML just to have 2-3 mails per month and in > a language that you can do it in another ML, the way I see it, and > think about it, might cause some problems to the local community you > are making the list to support.Consider that you must have people to > support all levels of users(at least most of them). > > Also think about all that confusing things Bryen said ;-) and how many > local ML can confuse users. > > Having many lists make the Global community lose important feedback > and honestly that is the reason we tell Greek people if they have a > problem they can explain in English, write at opensuse-project and not > in opensuse-el since others users can benefit in various ways with > answers they will get. > > Now about what Chuck said about a local event,I think that even if you > had an opensuse-USA list, states are so big that this problem would > not be solved. > Also don't underestimate the help a Greek or a French or a Belorussian > can give you in a local event in the states,more ideas are never bad. > No one tells you how to run things, bottom line you always do what you > want,but having more ideas if you have a well-structured way of > thinking can never be harmful. > I am not against local ML, on the contrary I am a big supporter but > only if think it can really change things to the better and only if > you really think that the existing lists don't serve you they > desirable way. > Bottom line on that, if you think a ML can help your local communities > go for it but have in mind that it can also weaken a local community > if it does not work well, I know a couple of examples. > I would suggest to start where we started and that is an IRC channel, > announce it on the project ML and then talk with people there if you > really need a ML. > If you all agree to that go for it. > > That is my opinion and I certainly don't want to play the smart-ass here :-) > Think about it > > Kostas
You know Kostas, for someone who talks a lot, you actually talk a lot of sense. You raise some very similar points to those mentioned by Henne and Bryen but the way you express it is very persuasive. So to find a better approach I had a look on the Communication page http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels and it seems the best thing to do is ask people to sign up to the Project list "opensuse-proj...@opensuse.org - The mailing list where non-technical aspects of the openSUSE distribution and community are discussed. Join us! " and to include Australia in the subject line. People can then filter out those messages if we are making too much noise. hopefully this will be a satisfactory solution. cheers, Helen -- IRC: helen_au helen.so...@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
