Marcello - Sounds as if you have answered most of the issues. I am pretty
much a Unix person, so someone may provide some more NT-specific answers. 
   - For the cold backup, shut down the database (I always prefer SHUTDOWN
IMMEDIATE). Copy all the files, including all data files, control files,
initialization file. Yesterday we had a rousing discussion on the pros/cons
of copying the redo log files. Rather than re-open that discussion, I hope
you saved the emails. You can also research this issue on the net. 
   - When you make structural changes to the database, enter the command
ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO TRACE.
   - When you get tired of manually shutting the database down, you can get
fancy and create a script to do that. Again, there are probably examples to
be found on the Internet.
   - In addition to the exports, I would try to do the cold backup each
week, simply because it is an easy time frame to remember.
These points should get you started. Good luck and I hope you enjoy your
experiences with Oracle
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Ok Oracle 8i
1 development DB (a very small one) installed on a W2K Pro (NT)
I can shutdown DB at any time.
I need a cold backup just in case i have to recover the whole DB.
An Export/import script (dump/load to/from  ascii files) would be enough for
me.
Tanks in advance, Marcello
PS(the wizard does not work , other way ...)



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Oggetto: RE: Backup and restore


Marcello - Oracle backup and recovery is an extensive subject because
different organization's requirements vary so widely. For example, a small
personal test database has very simple backup requirements, while a large
eCommerce Web site that absolutely must be up 24x7 has very complex ones.
Backup & recovery is one of the most important requirements for an Oracle
site and it is absolutely critical that you have a competent backup scheme
that matches your site's requirements. One good way to begin is to take the
Oracle Education class for Backup and Recovery, if that is available to you.
     Why don't you give us a hint as to what your requirements are, and some
of us can better advise you how to start. What Oracle version are you using?
How many databases? What type of server (Unix, NT)? Are you easily able to
shut the database down in evenings or weekends for a cold (offline) backup?
Include any other factors that you feel are significant to your backup and
recovery situation.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi i am an oracle newbie.
I can't find an exaustive explanation about backup and restore in Oracle.
I mean policy, commands and syntax without using wizards.
I did a fast run cross orafaq, but i can't find it ...
Any help ....
thank you, Marcello
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