Slightly OT. I found this in my mailbox this morning ;-) * Being compliant with the latest specs. BEA and Orion have shined here. BEA was 6 months ahead of the pack with their EJB 1.0 product, which positioned them extremely well. Orion has unofficially been supporting many of the latest J2EE specs (probably the first independant vendor to support EAR files). BEA and Orion are currently the market leaders in EJB 2.0 compliance. Both vendors have had EJB 2.0 beta features for months now, and are close to full support. * Ease-of-use. Again, BEA and Orion get top marks here. Installing BEA application server on a Unix machine has been a simple process of unzipping a file. Deploying a complete J2EE application in Orion requires adding an EAR file and two lines to the Orion config files. Some other vendors have been much more complicated, which creates undue confusion for developers. sven -- ====================================================================================== Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================================