they say it is blocking their precious and expensive view of the ocean

ds

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Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
i recently read that somewhere in the northeast there are big NIMBY
fights over having to look at a wind farm that is being built (near
Providence maybe?)


I personally don't understand what is so objectionable about a wind farm's
appearance.  A bunch of windmills in a field twirling away, that seems
pretty cool to me.  If it was noisy I wouldn't like it, though.  Are the
NIMBY objections about noise or appearance?

Some wind farms are on dual use land.  Cattle can graze on wind farm land in
some cases.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Open Topic Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [OT] ongoing environmental thread *was* lead free



the 'Industrial Physicist' Magazine (a good rag!)
covers these topics routinely

the consensus (as i read it) of their writers is that fission power
offers  the best set of trade offs currently, esp. if breeders are
considered since the amount of waste is much lower from breeders

one point that was made in the favor of nukes is that the geographical
'footprint' is much smaller than alternatives

solar arrays and windmills have horribly huge and unsightly footprints

they had some data about the acreage needed to produce any reasonable
amount of power that was staggering

i recently read that somewhere in the northeast there are big NIMBY
fights over having to look at a wind farm that is being built (near
Providence maybe?)

In the pursuit of never ending insanity here on the LEFT coast:
(are you sitting down?)
they are seriously looking at draining the Hetch Hetchy reservoir to
restore the valley to it's original condition

the hydro generator provides some of the cleanest 'free' power that
there is and the dam provides some of the best quality of water
available anywhere and it was all paid off long ago

Dennis Saputelli

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