> Well, more thanks to all those digruntled apple and linux dicks that
> have and are pounding out all of this viral crap that Norton, Mcafee,
> and the others milk for their profits...hang 'em by their bouncies and
> then peel their skin I would.

aj, what do you mean by that statement?  Are you saying that Apple and Linux
geeks are writing viruses for Windows?  If so, why would they do that?  To
make people sick of Windows and switch to Apple or Linux?  Most Apple users
think they are the artistic elite and wouldn't want a bunch of Windows
hooligans mixing with their ranks.  Most Linux geeks think Windows users are
all a bunch of clueless newbies and don't want to mix with them either.  I
use both Windows and Linux, does that make me a hooligan and a dick
(hoolidick?).

If you are looking for conspiracies, I think a much more plausible one is
that the AV vendors write the viruses to generate demand for their products.
I wonder why there hasn't been an FBI or Justice Dept. investigation into
this.

If you just don't like Apple or Linux users, then just say so ;-)  I tend to
dislike Apple users because they tend to not know anything about basic
computer concepts, such as file types and extensions.  It's a major pain in
my anatomy when art services do my ad art and give me files I can't open on
my PC.  Even when they do manage to remember my request to save the files in
PC format, I can't even tell what the file type is because there is no file
extension.  When I ask them what file type it is, they say "What's a file
type?  What's an extension?".  I explain that PC's usually insert text in
the filename after a dot, and that's the extension.  They say, "Oh, the Macs
don't use extensions."  I say, "Then how does the Mac software know what
file type a file is?".  They say, "I don't know, it just knows."  This
willful ignorance of how their machines work is very aggravating to me.  I
don't expect them to be IT experts, but you'd think they would gain some
computer knowledge just by using the machines over the years.  As far as the
Apple products go, I suppose they are very good.  That's what everyone says,
anyway.  I haven't used Apple products since the Apple II days.  My college
roommate was raving about the MacIntosh when it first came out.  I went to
the college library to see it, and wasn't that impressed.  He said how great
the graphic interface was and how easy it was to use.  I said, "Bah, it's
got no expansion slots.  And I couldn't find the command line."  He became a
librarian, I became an electrical engineer ;-)

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [PEDA] Antivirus Problems


> The problem with your suggestion (though I do think it really is a very
> good suggestion), is that for many of us, there isn't any choice
> involved. The MIS department, configures the net for security, iner and
> intra, and "realtime" scanning is defacto the norm for these guys. They
> don't seee beyond THEIR mandate.
>
> In other words, it sounds good, but the commandant won't allow it.
>
> On the other hand, I ran P99SE SP6 for several years on a Mcaffee beld
> system, (realtime annoying interference mode on), and never had a
> database corruption with it. Admittedly, system performance sucks with
> "realtime protection" enabled, since Mcafee scans everything all the
> time, and McAfee squanders memory like Protel used to do, with memory
> leaks like my memory, but nothing ever got corrupted by it. Same for
> Norton.
>
> I'm just waiting for some bone-head security-freak to get the idea of
> scanning every single action continuously. Take that 4GHz machine and
> make it equivalent to an old PII 300...
>
> Well, more thanks to all those digruntled apple and linux dicks that
> have and are pounding out all of this viral crap that Norton, Mcafee,
> and the others milk for their profits...hang 'em by their bouncies and
> then peel their skin I would.
>
> aj



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