Ok Very short answer to a very difficult question.
99SE > DXP2004 transition. New features yes, Benefits yes, More productive in all areas than 99SE no More productive in some areas than 99SE yes but depending on your exact usage (multi channel will save HEAPS of time) Time estimate on transition from 99SE about 3 months to achieve almost same flow as 99SE Time to get as productive with 99SE if changed to another tools 6 - 9 months Time needed to give DXP2004 a fair go 2-3 months But the big BUT is that if 99SE does all YOU need it to do for YOUR needs, then you will get nothing more from DXP2004 for your $$$. I recommended to someone else yesterday to write down all the things they would have liked in 99SE, then cross of the things that would not save them time but would be nice, then see if those features are available in DXp2004 for you. I am sure the local Altium VAR will be happy to provide a demo and also telephone support during the demo. John > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judicious > Sent: 23 December 2004 21:23 > To: Open Topic Forum > Subject: Re: [OT] Political Process -- a new direction. > > Frankly, I don't grasp the underlying method or the rationale > of this approach. User groups are quite common. What's > different here? Perhaps a demonstration would help. Let me > propose two related real world scenarios: > > 1) I use Protel 99SE, which is reportedly no longer > supported after year's end. Protel DXP was not for me, so I > skipped that. Protel 2004 is a mystery to me. I would like to > know the following: > * What is the productivity rating of Protel 2004 compared to > Protel 99SE? > * Is Protel 2004 a solid, reliable product, essentially free of bugs? > * Does Protel 2004 have a logical structure and natural > learning curve? > * What is the cost of ownership (updates, support, etc), > including intangibles? (eg Protel 99SE was very costly at > first in terms of time wasted dealing with all of the > problems - now at SP6, and still significant bugs). > * Does importing / exporting between OrCad and Protel 99SE work? > * Does Situs work? > Evaluation via the trial version is problematic. The trial > period is too short for this type of product, the trial start > date is not at the evaluator's convenience, and the trial > version is apt not to be the latest. > > 2) Simply put, I don't trust Protel 2000. I'm willing to > give it a try, but the evaluation is problematic (as stated > above). I can't afford to devote a full time block of 30 days > for this. I would like to see the evaluation procedure > replaced with an ironclad, 100% customer satisfaction, > pro-rated one year guaranty: > * Full refund up to 120 days. > * 75% refund up to 240 days. > * 50% refund up to 1 year. > This represents a solid deal, rather than the handful of > questionable gimmicks presented in the past. If customers > like the product, they'll keep it. A few people may indeed > abuse the "free" time, but on the other hand, this may > trigger a stampede of customers. It's all within normal > business risks. > > The first scenario infers Protel 2000 user involvement and > response. The second scenario infers Altium's involvement and > response. Crank these two scenarios through your "New > Direction Procedure" and show us what happens. > > PS Objective diligence is preferable to empty slogans. > Contrary to the pessimistic claim below, people do "lift > fingers", many with good intentions - on the other hand, an > errant finger sometimes ends up in someone's face. This is > likely to invite a fist full of fingers in response. So if > you have a worthwhile goal, use objectivity as the finger > that points the way. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Open Topic Forum" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:38 AM > Subject: [OT] Political Process -- a new direction. > > > <...yawn and snip...and then the author wrote:> > > > Does this have anything to do with Protel? Yes. One of the obvious > > applications of the kind of direct/proxy democracy > represented by my > > initiative and the Swedish one, is for user groups. A user > group that was > > organized according to these concepts would, in fact, > represent the users, > > it would be not only a way for users to express what they > want, coherently > > and without bias from the hyperactive special interests who > often dominate > > such organizations, without requiring more effort than > people were willing > > to invest. I call these organizations "free associations," and free > > associations, by design, would be relatively easy to form > and easy to maintain. > > <...snip...> > > > My slogan: > > > > Lift a finger, save the world. > > But most people won't lift a finger. > > > > True? > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the OT discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[email protected] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/ot_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the OT discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/ot_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
