Gerhard:

See replies below.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 6/28/05 08:23:40, Ivan wrote:


IMO it's a non-tariff trade barrier, and should be challenged as one.


Why that? In a sense, every governmental regulation is a non-tariff trade
barrier -- and the US has, like every country, quite a few of those. What
about them? You're talking as if the European companies didn't have to
spend the same effort to comply with that regulation. It's not that they
solder with silver over there...

The Europeans originated the ROHS and WEEE regulations, and are farther along than anyone else in implementation. That stands to reason, right? Anyone who initiates something can proceed to implement it faster than someone who didn't initiate that thing. Additionally, the EU nations are more protective of their markets than the US. At least, it looks that way from where I live ;-) I'm not saying the US does not protect its markets at all, but I constantly hear of situations where the US is on the losing end of world trade. I guarantee you that if the US had been the first to impose ROHS and WEEE, it would have been challenged as a non-tariff trade barrier by the EU.

Let's get real for a moment. I know that the environmentalists, politicians, bureaucrats, and corporate PR people love ROHS and WEEE. But does anyone who actually functions in an engineering capacity in the electrical/electronics engineering field *really* believe that ROHS and WEEE will improve this world? I don't. I see it as a wash, or as a detriment. My belief on how to improve this world is to:

1) Use the *best* materials for the purpose. In this case, that is lead-tin solder. Best longevity, least risk of tin whisker growth and thermal/mech joint failure. 2) Use a design philosophy of building stuff that lasts, and can be repaired where practical. 3) Don't fill up the landfills or choke the recycling facilities with stuff that died prematurely due to bad choices of non-optimal materials. 4) Don't choke business with the extreme paperwork required to document compliance with ROHS and WEEE. It's not just a matter of switching solder types.



The US has only 1 vote, whereas the individual countries in the EU each
have 1 vote.


The EU is not a country. Besides, would you trade a single NAFTA (or FTAA)
vote for a single EU vote? Or would you trade votes by countries against
votes by population numbers?

I am not sure I understand your question or counterpoint. The EU is not part of the NAFTA deal. Hey, I've got an idea! How about each of the 50 states in the United States gets 1 vote in the WTO. That would be fairer, since each EU member "state" gets 1 vote in the WTO.



Oh, did I mention that the US does not have decent trade representation?


IMO that's not only an issue of trade representation. It's also about even
wanting to have international regulations. So far, most US governments
seemed to think that any form of international regulation (which seems to
be seen as translating to a loss of sovereignty) is not a good thing.
That's not a good position from which to tackle issues of international
regulation efficiently, of course :)

US "governments"? Plural? We've only got one. Perhaps you mean Presidential adminstrations? If so, that sovereignty issue varies from one administration to the next. The Clinton administration took every opportunity to give away US sovereignty. The Bush Jr. administration is reclaiming that sovereignty in some areas (warmaking), but still giving it away in trade (pending passage of CAFTA, increasing federal debt held by foreigners, etc.).

I am one of those folks who think that international regulations are a loss of sovereignty. How can they not be? The real issue is how much sovereignty is a nation willing to give away in order to participate in world trade. In the case of the US, I feel that our trade reps (the US Trade Representative) give far too many concessions to other nations. That is not the fault of other nations, that is our (the US) fault for having such lousy trade representatives. So, I am not criticizing Europeans as much as I am criticizing my own government and its lack of interest in protecting its own markets.

The last time I can remember a US administration doing something right in trade was when President Reagan enacted quotas on Japanese auto imports. He could have done 3 things: 1) put a huge tariff on the autos, 2) not done anything and let the "free market" work it out, or 3) put quotas (limits) on the number of autos imported. The first choice would have resulted in unreasonable protection of US auto producers making inferior products, and sky-high prices for superior Japanese autos. The second choice would have resulted in rapid decline of the US auto industry, and huge job loss. The third choice, quotas, was the right choice. It forced Japanese auto makers to build assembly plants in the US and hire American workers. This also forced the US auto makers to improve the quality of their products to be competitive. This is the kind of trade policy the US needs, not a policy of giving away the store.



Gerhard



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