I just had two fillings repaired with mercury-silver amalgum. The dentist said it is still by far the most durable filling you can get, which is why it is still recommended over the white fillings for people who grind their teeth at night. He went on to quote studies of huge numbers of dentists who worked with liquid mercury all their life. The studies supported no statistically significant health issues resulting from the mercury.

Jeff Condit

PS: I bought the top of the line cell phone 2 years ago. Now it is obsolete and hard to even get a battery or charger. My cell phone company is charging me the same whether or not I get a new phone and wants me to throw it away. I think things like cell phones with planned obsolescence in a year or so should be made with less lead, maybe 10% instead of 37%. I think designs for which only a couple boards will ever be made should be exempt. Maybe one way of regulating this would be a tax on the lead used in each PCB, such as x$/gram. This would coerce high volume designs to use less lead while not penalizing prototypes, low usage designs, etc. Anyway, the way things are and the way I think things should be are two different things.

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CRTs are also exempted from ROHS. And they contain several lbs. of lead each! I guess there's no better x-ray shielding material than lead ;-)

Network infrastructure is exempted until 2010.  I wonder why?  ;-)

If they eliminate all sources of toxic waste and radiation, where are all our future superheros going to come from? ;-)

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


Brad Velander wrote:
Ivan,
In your list of improvements to the world you left out the most important detail that makes this legislation so totally ridiculous and ineffective to it's core. Electronics products account for less than 0.5% of world lead usage.

So the EU is restricting one of the smallest portions of lead usage they could probably find while doing nothing or little about the largest sources of lead in the environment, consumer and car batteries. At the very least there should be a significant refundable consumer deposit on batteries of all types to ensure that people are sufficiently motivated to return spent batteries for proper disposal/recycling. Yeah it is not perfect or desirable but at least it would probably have the greatest single impact on lead getting into the free environment these days.

On your issue of the US giving away sovereignty. The answer is simple, stay home! Imparting your regulations or lack thereof on others, is that not infringing on their sovereignty? Be fair, you can neither impart your beliefs on them nor they impart their beliefs on you without infringing on other's but that is not sovereignty. Sovereignty is only within your own borders, outside of your borders you have no sovereignty. That is the key to the whole definition of sovereign, it is only within the realm of your own borders. If you want to go international you have to play by other's rules or rules that you have agreed to with all the other players, just as you expect them to play by your rules if they want to come and play in your sovereign territory. The lack of agreement between international parties doesn't co-opt any of your sovereignty.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
1925 Kirschner Rd.,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374

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