Dennis,
Thanks for having a look for us all. The response which you received was
unfortunate.
It may be that the biggest potential market is also in the area which doesn't
want to pay high prices, hence the expansion of the service is blocked.
Pity, it made a lot of sense. After all you wouldn't pay for a pcb run & then go
and apply the solder mask layer yourself. I can't see that the usable solder /
flux pattern should be any different. Particularly when the process would be
far better implemented in a factory rather than a proto lab.
Cheers
Don
Saputelli wrote:
i called Midwest PCB
i asked them if this was something they do every day
the first salesperson didn't really know much about SIPAD, the second
one did
she said that they did a whole lot more last year than this year
wonder why?
user disillusionment ?
more lead free nonsense ?
i tried to get a ballpark $ figure but no go without data
(BTW, i don't think this is good business practice, i see this a lot.
I understand that for a firm quote the actual data is needed but for a
no commitment rough guess surely some number could be tossed out there
before we all waste our time, 100 pcs, 4" x 6" 4 layer, 8/8 should
really be all the info needed for a rough cost figure )
i did learn that they need to make a stencil just as we would, so i
assume that that cost will still need to be paid one way or the other
(where are those plasma re-programmable stencils anyway ?)
all in all they sure didn't push SIPAD very hard
(maybe the licensing fees are a killer)
then i wrote to one of my taiwan PCB suppliers
they never heard of SIPAD, but looked into it
they sent a link i couldn't read (all chinese) that seemed off the mark
then they replied the next day saying that SIPAD was too expensive and
HAL was just as good
:)
oh well,
i think my SIPAD research is concluded at least for now
Dennis Saputelli
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Don Ingram wrote:
Has anyone had any contact with SIPAD (or similar) PCB's at all yet.
From the proto PCB angle it looks like a great process for small
runs, good shelf life too. Midwest PCB in the US pricing doesn't seem
too brutal but is a bit too far away. Looking for somewhere in Oz or
SE Asia.
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